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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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Archangel Press, Remote Office

Mon

Mar 22
2004

03:49

[Cel] [World] Trying It Again, clarification

(This is actually a backhanded way of apologizing for the fact that, even if
I tried to switch and use your definitions, I'm too old and thickheaded to
do it consistently.  I'd create more confusion rather than less.  Again, my
apologies but I'm going to use words according to their definitions and try
to be clear by context.)

>Pantheism is a worship of all gods
>
> Incorrect.

I'm picking nits now but, for the record:

Pantheism:  2. the worship of all gods.
Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1983

This is significant only in that, because of this, polytheism IS NOT the
opposite of Monotheism.  If a culture believes either (a) all gods are an
aspect of One God (such as the Eerith), or (b) there is only one god
(nuances of omnipresence), then they are both mono- and polytheistic.
Polytheism, by its very definition (Webster again), is the opposite of
Monotheism.

These are tiny matters and I certianly do not wish to incite an agument
about them.  If it helps the rest of the list to agree on alternative
definitions, I say use them and I'll do what I can to keep up.  As another
alternative, we can not use any of the confusing words and take an extra
sentence to be very specific about what we mean.  Frazer used specific
phrases in his work; things like:  known named dieties, known implied
dieties, theoretical pantheon, applied pantheon, etc.  Would it be that hard
to do something similar?  For example, actually just say:  Mir believes
there are multiple gods.  They do not condemn worship of any god which they
would deem 'good'.  Mir knows of the following six gods...Mir also knows
that there are gods for...Of the gods which Mir acknowledges, this one might
be the same as that one from this culture...Even though Mir has knowledge of
all these gods, only the following three actually recieve any kind of
attention...and so on.  I just can't shake the feeling that we are
needlessly complicating the discussion (and I know I'm one of the worst for
doing it).  What are we actually after at the end of the day?  Using a
narrowed definition of Polytheism, we still actually only end up with a list
of gods for the website (per society).  If that's all we need, I don't care
if we call it pantheon, polytheon, or Doug--it's just a list.  If we need
something other than that, then the definitions don't help us anyway.  I
don't have a good answer but I can't shake the feeling that we've
overanalyzed the issue into a bigger matter than it needs to be.

MK

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