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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Wed

May 26
2004

07:25



Wikify

[Cel] Expansion (was: Results for 1443)

--- RulingNations@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 5/20/04 9:46:08 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
> juha.vesanto@iki.fi writes:
> >RulingNations@aol.com wrote:



> >>No background factors have been described, so that's also a wash
> (0).
> >>
> >>So, where does the -5 come from to make Exquaestio's chances of
> >>conversion normal (0), and how come I don't see other player's
> actions
> >>having the same factor?
> >
> >Nobody is else growing as fast (ratio-wise) as you are. You started
> from
> >scratch 8 years ago. Do you have any real-life examples of religious
> >expansion that you aspire to?
> 
> The early years of Buddhism and Islam are well documented. In the
> second
> decade of their existence they were able to field _gatherings of
> thousands_ of believers. That wouldn't have been possible for
> Exquaestio
> even before you lowered the conversion rate.

Well, I can't speak to how Buddhism managed to spread so quickly,
although at a guess I'd say that it filled a spiritual need, but
Islam's spread was considerably helped by the Byzantine Emperor
Justinian I's insistence on Orthodoxy.

Justinian was trying to reconquer what had been the Western Roman
Empire, and in an attempt to win the support of the Roman Pope, he
ruthlessly supressed all heresies. Unfortunately for Justinian, Egypt,
the breadbasket of the empire, was predominantly Monophysite; while
Syria, which guarded the frontiers with Persia and Arabia, was
predominantly Nestorian. Justinian's alienation of Syria and Egypt made
their people more than willing to switch political and religious
allegiance.

There were other factors, too, such as the Arabs' military doctrine;
the paranoia of Byzantine Emperors, which often resulted in the deaths
of the most able Byzantine officers; and the methods the Arabs used to
encourage conversion of subject populations.

For what it's worth, given the Celandran-in-the-street's attitude to
religion, if Exquaestio wants to increase its rate of expansion, they
must first clearly elucidate the benefits they can provide, and
secondly, they must hitch their wagon to those in power. As I said,
part of what helped Islam spread was that it wasn't just a religious
movement, it was political and military also. Christianity didn't
really take off until Constantine the Great converted and imposed the
religion on the Roman Empire.

If Exquaestio wants to increase their numbers, the best way would be, I
think, to target the power players in the Free Cities, and work from
the top down, rather than the bottom up.

Andrew

> Jefferson (Exquaestio)
> http://www.picotech.net/~jeff_wilson63/rpg/
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