Andrew Janssen wrote:
> I'm starting to regret using the term "dark pantheon" to describe the 
> goblin-gods. It implies a certain dualism, and a humanocentric 
> perspective. Another way of looking at it might be that there have been 

In my mind, the list of gods is a compilation of (some of) the biggest
god-related religions on Qaiyore. There are hundreds, if not thousands, 
of smaller religions and cults which circle around various powerful / 
imagined beings from the Dreaming. And the Dreaming is vast. The number
of beings involved with some aspects of life on Celandra is very, very
small compared to the total number of "relevant" beings in the Dreaming.

So, the term "dark pantheon" certainly gives a wrong idea, and signifies
a cultural perspective rather than an absolute one. The goblins 
certainly don't view their gods as "dark" gods.

> cycles of pantheons: the gods of the lizard-men/draconians came first, 
> and were displaced by the goblin-gods, who in turn were displaced by the 
> gods of Men.

This is much better approach. But perhaps not the right one either.
Saying of the gods that they are gods of the lizard-men somehow binds
the god to the lizard-men. Whereas the gods have, or may have, an agenda
of their own, quite apart from the lizard-men. It's just that the 
lizard-men have taken to worshipping certain gods, and the gods have
decided to let them do it for a while... Certainly some gods adopt
certain cultures or races, even derive their Authority or at least
focus from them. But there are many other possible sources of focus,
and the gods (beings in the Dreaming) exist quite apart from whatever
happens on Celandra.

juuso

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