--- ibrahim  wrote:
> What I'm thinking of is a goblin shaman/priest using divinely granted
> 
> magic not to brainwash per say, but magically persuade select 
> individuals (who are ethically on the knife-edge already, been light
> and 
> dark, and simply require a nudge in one direction) into their 
> "ideological camp".

That might work, I think. The Shaman doesn't really force a change on
the victim; he simply gives the victim an "out", as police
interrogators say, allowing the victim to do what his inner self truly
wants to do, but has been restrained from doing by social strictures.

> What happened to the Tirmaeiri Rangers in the Tana/Videssian
> borderlands 
> is an interesting question, as they were essentially thrown into a 
> situation they were greatly unprepared for, and I suspect of the
> various 
> companies of mounted Rangers employed in the area, several Rangers
> may 
> not be returning to Kaeir in their original state of mind.
> 
> Lastly, a lesser demon under the instructions from its goblin deity 
> master, could be bound to a mortal, could it not?  If the demon 
> participant in the binding is willing, and a suitably skilled magic
> user 
> is carrying out the binding, there is no reason why it would not be 
> succesful?

Right.

Andrew

> Ibrahim
> 
> Andrew Janssen wrote:
> 
> >ibrahim wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I know i've talked about psionics and psychic style magic in the
> past, 
> >>but to what extent is magical brain-washing or mind influencing? 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Magical Brainwashing or mind-influencing is *possible*. However, you
> 
> >need to get Authority over your target's Spirit/Mind. This means
> that 
> >either your target voluntarily lets you brainwash them, or you find
> a 
> >God willing to grant you the authority to do that kind of meddling,
> or 
> >you use Material Essence and your Will to take by force that which
> will 
> >not be given willingly.
> >
> >The first option is rather pointless except for certain theraputic &
> 
> >espionage related purposes, unless you're already persuasive enough
> to 
> >convince your target to give you Authority. For the second option,
> only 
> >Coron, Lucia, and Arlova have that Authority, and they only grant it
> 
> >temporarily in very special and narrowly-defined circumstances. As
> for 
> >option three, using that option will *very quickly* attract the
> negative 
> >attention of the Gods and the Eerith.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Secondly, is there any impediment to a practicioner of dark magics
> to 
> >>bind a demon (not a goblin) to himself?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Nope. The best way would be to get Authority from a higher-level
> demon 
> >and use that to bind the lower-level. Also, as with many other
> beings, 
> >knowing a being's True Name will give you Authority over it(this is
> more 
> >like Material Essence magic, in that you gain your Authority by
> virtue 
> >of knowledge).
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Ibrahim
> >>
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