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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Mon

May 2
2005

03:09

[Cel] Strategic Situation, End of 1454

Jefferson wrote:
> Andrew Janssen wrote:
> 
>>Jefferson wrote:
>>
>>>Juha Vesanto wrote:
>>>
>>>>Andrew Janssen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The eastern forces were able to get ahead of the Ice Demons on the
>>>>>>*western* side of the Tavar Mountains that form the north-south spine
>>>>
>>>>Err... wait a minute. Where did it say that?
>>>
>>>That was me.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm willing to
>>>>let that stand, if there is reason to, but it is unclear to me
>>>>where, and how, did the western army manage to cut off the advance of
>>>>the Ice Demons in Tana? The way I see it, all major action happened
>>>>in Parglug.
>>>
>>>>It's just that I'll have to rewrite the events for this year if this
>>>>was the case. Which is something I can do, but would rather not.
>>>
>>>Something good needs to happen in Tana to justify Exquaestio's 'Mixed 
>>>Results.'  I don't insist that the allies got ahead of the demons, but if 
>>>nothing good happened in Parglug that wouldn't be mixed results, that would 
>>>be failure.
>>
>>Actually, Jeff, looking back at the action results I think you've been 
>>confusing your east with your west.
> 
> 
> Nope.
> 
> 
>>The original action result for Exquaestio was:
>>
>>
>>>---+++ Action 1-3: The Third Demon War
>>>
>>>*Resolution:* Diff = Normal (0) + Dice (---+) + Extras (Triple: +2) = 0 
>>>Mixed results
>>>
>>>*Dice:*
>>>
>>>   * Casualties: -1
>>>   * Reputation: -1
>>>   * East: -1
>>>   * West: +1
>>
>>The success in the west would represent the success of the Allied Army 
>>in destroying the horde at Parglug. The failure in the east would be the 
>>failure of the battle at Lildra to slow the Ice Demon advance north.
> 
> 
> Yes, the contribution in the east was negative, and the contribution in the 
> west was positive.  However, _the result_ was Mixed and, overall, 
> Exquaestio got nothing from the west and was destroyed in the east. 
> Overall, that's a failure.  Now, we could remove Lildra and have Exquaestio 
> take fewer casualties, but its a good story and that wouldn't explain the 
> extra resources Exquaestio allotted to this action.  Considering the 
> relative numbers involved its much easier to explain something positive 
> resulting in the east than in the west.

We don't know that Exquaestio got nothing from the west--after all, the 
story arc I started contains the possibility that the Espiris' contacts 
with the Sedonians might produce far better relationships in the long 
run than would normally be expected. In particular, the good working 
relationship between Surgeon Astron Pithate and Pioneer Tania may well 
pay off big for Exquaestio. Pithate's a Patriarch of the Order of 
Mithrac and is the leading candidate to replace the current Archprelate 
of the Order. Even if he never attains the Archprelacy, his influence on 
the rest of the Order is considerable, and right now Pithate is 
favorably disposed towards Exquaestio.

Andrew

> The destruction of Exquaestio's rohain and guards to some benefit in the 
> east while having no significant effect in the west explains:
> 
> The extra resources allocated to the action.
> The result dice.
> The overall result.
> 
> And any alternative also needs to consider all three of these to make sense.
> 
> Jefferson
> http://www.picotech.net/~jeff_wilson63/rpg/Exq_Main.html
> 
> 
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