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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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IbrahimDughlasGa
ibrahim

Mon

Jul 11
2005

02:09

[Cel] Post-War: Population

Jefferson wrote:

>ibrahim wrote:
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>>Andrew Janssen wrote:
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>>>ibrahim wrote:
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>>>>Jefferson wrote:
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>>>>>Jefferson wrote:
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>>>>>>Special Cases: Mir, Parglug, Rhudyn, Sedonia
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>>>>>Another Special Case:  Morvali
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>>>>>The Morvali have almost certainly absorbed some of Talishara refugees and 
>>>>>begun rebuilding the city of Wyr.  The tripod site lists the Morvali 
>>>>>population at 150,000, which seems low, even for a nomadic people.  For 
>>>>>1458 I see setting the population to 500,000.
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>>>>This is interesting as it means that all of Taltheran's neighbours now 
>>>>outnumber it, and therefore probably have greater muscle in several 
>>>>senses (perhaps even in terms of $ capital).
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>>>Why am I suddenly reminded of the Partitions of Poland? >:)
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>>Indeed. : )
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>>I suspect something might happen in the Saltrimi March that necessitates 
>>it being officially annexed, rather than just a de facto annexation.  
>>Undoubtedly Taltheran's other neighbours are thinking the same (here i 
>>think of Morvali and Sedonia especially).
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>I haven't been keeping up with situation in Taltheran, so this may be way 
>off, but . . .
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>It seems to me that the city of Saltrim is the key.  Is Kaeir willing to 
>let Sedonia have it?  Is Sedonia willing to let Kaeir have it?  (I _know_ 
>Kaeir wouldn't be willing to let Mir have it.)  Can Sedonia, Kaeir, and Mir 
>work out some sort of power sharing arrangement?  If Saltrim and Tal can't 
>cooperate I don't see any way for Taltheran to survive.
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Well, Kaeir already has the Saltrimi hinterland, which Basiluddin 
cleverly took when he withdrew from Saltrim city itself.  The Saltrimi 
Protectorate of the Marchlands covers most of Saltrim, save for a small 
pocket of territory in the north around Saltrim city.  The possession is 
in everything but name mind you (Kaeir has an unnamed senior official 
called the Marchmagister, though it appointed Basiluddin as the Trade 
Commissioner to Saltrim).

Saltrim had also become a centre of Taltherani republicanism, though 
after the end of the civil war, i'm not sure as to whether that has 
changed.  A certain section of the population may be supportive of 
Kaeir, especially as Basiluddin at one point was influential in many 
circles there.

Kaeir will not let the March go, as it wants a march to protect its 
difficult northern frontier.

It is probably content to leave the city alone (not wanting to get 
involved in Saltrimi, and eventually, Taltherani politics)..  Given that 
it is a port though, I don't think Kaeir would be interested in Sedonia 
or Mir controlling it, though it would be open to Saltrim being under 
joint Kaeir-Mir-Sedonia "protection" of sorts (a kind of international 
city, much like post-WWI Danzig, perhaps).  If it came to a pinch 
though, Kaeir would take the city just to prevent Sedonia or Mir from 
gaining control of a northern port.

Saltrim, without the majority of its tax base in the south, is already 
in dire straits though.

Ibrahim


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