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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Dec 14
2000

19:22

Admin

On 14 Dec 2000, at 12:53, watters.10@osu.edu wrote:

> I think this bears pointing out.  I seem to remember that the old GMAST didn't 
> have a spammer problem because you had to be a subscriber to post.  Most 
> spammers don't want a verifiable email address.  Another list I'm on (the 
> UseNet moderator's mailing list) is not protected in any fashion, so the 
> occasional spam gets thru there.

We reject BCC's outright, which covers 99% of all the spam we 
get.  Instituting DUL will catch the rest.
 
> But still, I think that traffic from unsubscribed addresses should be sent to 
> /dev/null, while the listowner could send mail explaining how to subscribe the 
> alternate addresses.  OF course obvious spams should just get /dev/null and no 
> response.

Traffic from unsubscribed-but-valid-looking addresses go to the 
listowner for moderation.  Obvious spam gets ashcanned, yes.
 
> Some mailing lists have done away with allowing "throwaway" accounts such as 
> hotmail, since they often cause problems with lists with their bounces, etc.

I'm about to, but it's because Hotmail is so unreliable it's making 
us look bad.  In fact, I think all the GMAST Hotmailers got 
autobounced again (they'll get a "please resub" at midnight).

It's only Hotmail, though, and not all remailers.
 
> While the ugly "C" word has been brought up, this is just a reminder that 
> while the internet is very free-speech oriented, "there ain't no such thing as 
> a free lunch".  When GMAST was losing its home, Phoenyx stepped in and 
> generously allowed it to move to their host.  Software and hardware upgrades, 
> routine maintenance, list admin time all incur costs in one way or another.  
> Phoenyx has remained advertising-free while other services (e-groups, frex) 
> have come along, and to cover costs (and make a little profit) they insert 
> advertising into the messages.*  

'Course, I should point out here that I've passed on the only 
message that's gone to moderation...
-- 
Karen J. Cravens (silver@phoenyx.net)
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