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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Fri

Jun 15
2001

17:07

On the traditions of GMAST (was Unsubscribing)

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 Noctifer@aol.com wrote:

> I'm guessing you meant "can't," yes?

Um... yeah.  Subconscious wishful thinking, I suppose.

> That's because you joined, I'm guessing, during Randye's very short term as
> GMAST moderator (or shortly before that).  Randye is still a friend of mine,
> but that _was_ a very bad move on her part (and why I put the "most" in

No, I joined years before that...  Gmast never had a moderator in the
years I was subscribed when it was hosted by the university site.

> there).  The moderator before her (and maybe more than one, the memory
> doesn't serve that far back) didn't moderate, for reasons you list later...

I don't recall a moderator before her.  I assume that the list technically
had an "owner" but that person didn't read the list or care what went on
on it.

> True, but I wasn't talking about you...I was talking about Karen.

But I get lumped into Karen's actions.

> That's true.  Things started to slow down substantially during the move to
> Stargame and the subsequent move to Phoenix.  I expected the list to recover,
> but it didn't.  I think for the reasons I mentioned.

That's where we'll just have to agree to disagree.

> Yeah, you are obligated, Carl.  You took on the responsibility of moderating
> GMAST.  That means service...I don't really care if its with a smile or a
> flame.

No, I took the responsibility of handling the technical issues of Gmast...
I never accepted the position of "moderator".  I expect the list members
to help each other.

> It would've taken _much_ less time to post the directions in an
> e-mail message than it did to point at where he could've found it out
> himself.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and maybe he'll
learn to find out things for himself instead of bugging other people to
give him answers.

> >In the golden age of Gmast, there was no moderator or even a listowner
> >that paid attention to the list.
>
> Yep...you say that like it was a bad thing.

I don't mean to imply that.  Gmast was fine without it.

Though lack of such on taogm-l *did* destroy the list, IMO...  tradition
was thrown to the wind and a new tradition, very unlike the old tradition,
was instituted by a few strong personalities and a sudden influx of D&D
players because Wizards "inadvertantly" listed it under their section of
D&D mailings lists.

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Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)                GMAST List Owner
    [   Phoenyx PBeM Roleplaying  --  http://www.phoenyx.net/   ]
Where am I . . . and why am I in this handbasket?

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