On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Karen J. Cravens wrote:

> Read:
>
> http://forums.white-wolf.com/viewtopic.php?t=19615&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
>
> Then consider:
>
> Now, granted the Phoenyx doesn't charge anything (not even eyeball time;
> we pay the costs out of our own pockets, not via ads) and never will, but
> hypothetically, what if we'd gone the Meetup route and charged GMs for
> mailing lists/forums.  What if the GMs (some of 'em, anyway) passed the
> hat to cover the charges?  Would we fall under the "conventions" loophole
> since I suppose our hypothetical fee would be the same no matter what game
> you ran?


The most reasonable explanation of this that I've seen is that it's a 
self-protection thing to placate their lawyers and company insurance 
providers.  They aren't going to try to collect, this just gives them a 
way to say "it wasn't official, we aren't responsible" when some parents 
sue the company because their kids got drunk at a LARP somewhere.

As for the games at the Phoenyx being classified the same as a convention, 
probably not.  It would be more like a group that rents a conference room 
(a Phoenyx list and webspace) and asks the players to share out the cost 
of rental.


-Bill Hamilton
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