On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Bill Hamilton wrote: BH>The most reasonable explanation of this that I've seen is that it's a BH>self-protection thing to placate their lawyers and company insurance BH>providers. They aren't going to try to collect, this just gives them a BH>way to say "it wasn't official, we aren't responsible" when some parents BH>sue the company because their kids got drunk at a LARP somewhere. Normally, I'd agree, but the company has a somewhat checkered litigation history. They might be serious. BH>As for the games at the Phoenyx being classified the same as a convention, BH>probably not. It would be more like a group that rents a conference room BH>(a Phoenyx list and webspace) and asks the players to share out the cost BH>of rental. They might not see it that way, but I'd be inclined to. Flipping the argument on its head: whyever would we pay *them* if we don't pay any *other* game company? Bah. Hypothetically, I'd either say fine, announce that White Wolf will no longer permit us to run their games here, and let them take the flak for alienating their own customers... or else, and this is actually the more likely, say: *Bring* it, y'all. You want to protect your IP, we'll write you our very own license, none of that Camarilla horsepuckey, and you sign it and we'll sign it and pay you "$1 and other considerations." Otherwise we'll see you in court. And, heck, we'd sell TICKETS, and not give them any of that profit. -- Karen J. Cravens silver@phoenyx.net ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
