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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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HorgAnus
Horganus

Thu

Mar 20
2003

15:56Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

   Hi Everyone. Well it has been a couple of busy days for me. And i hope 
everyone is doing fine.  I am glad to hear we have had a productive few days 
so now its time to get things going i believe. So lets get started by 
welcoming our newest players to the game.
Lois (Solomon) and Geoff Bonn  and Paul Corrish  and Help them with any ??? 
they may have.

   M. K. Since i am not aware of which societies are available for play i 
would like to know if you can list the available ones for everyone. I would 
not want to offer a society for play if someone else is out of town right at 
this time. 

 Joel has informed me of which society he is Playing (I play East Torphan on 
Qaiyoure.  In it's later years to became know as "The Burcancy"

Ibrahim has Requested to play the Kaeir society .

Jusso Wonderful but i feel that placing you some where would not be a fair 
decision on my part you look through the game and choose a society.

Mellian Since there has been no voiced objection to you returning to the game 
i feel a second chance might be in order. (( However i offer a word of 
caution  Play nice!!))
enough said. I would also like to request you not select the same society 
that you previously played start fresh somewhere else on the continent . 

Now that thats all been said lets get  playing. For all the new people please 
Take a look at the world and read through some of the societys see which one 
may appeal to your liking. Then submit a write for a proposal and send it to 
the list please Paul i think it would be best if you selet a society already 
in the world of qaiyore. I dont feel introducing a new society at this  
moment is really appropriate.

I think for everyone involved it would be wise to select a society bordering 
somewhere along the in land sea of qaiyore. The submissions i already have 
tend to lean towards this area. 

Lets try to get this done about the end of this month so we may start 1436 
around the first of
April

And Finally M. K. I think i would prefer to change my decision to playing one 
of the free cities Societies instead of the terebuani i will submit my write 
up to the list  as well for your consideration.

Well at thus end i think i have covered everyone so  please if i have left 
anyone out please 
let me know at your earliest convience regards Rick 
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ArchangelPressRe
Archangel Press, Remote Office

Thu

Mar 20
2003

16:23Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

I'll try to have the list of available societies done in the next day or so.
It will actually be faster to prepare a list of societies NOT available (and
obviously, those spoken for below by other players are no longer open).
Two quick questions.
1-How shall we resolve turns?  Should I do them, leave them all to you, let
you do them and then give comment, etc.?
2-Beginning of the year events.  Do you want to do them or shall I?  Quite
honestly, I rather enjoy that part of things, especially since it gives me
the opportunity to keep Mir and the Eerith up to date and relevant in the
world without overplaying them.

God bless and keep you all in this time of war.
MK
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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:56 AM
Subject: [Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon


>    Hi Everyone. Well it has been a couple of busy days for me. And i hope
> everyone is doing fine.  I am glad to hear we have had a productive few
days
> so now its time to get things going i believe. So lets get started by
> welcoming our newest players to the game.
> Lois (Solomon) and Geoff Bonn  and Paul Corrish  and Help them with any
???
> they may have.
>
>    M. K. Since i am not aware of which societies are available for play i
> would like to know if you can list the available ones for everyone. I
would
> not want to offer a society for play if someone else is out of town right
at
> this time.
>
>  Joel has informed me of which society he is Playing (I play East Torphan
on
> Qaiyoure. In it's later years to became know as "The Burcancy"
>
> Ibrahim has Requested to play the Kaeir society .
>
> Jusso Wonderful but i feel that placing you some where would not be a fair
> decision on my part you look through the game and choose a society.
>
> Mellian Since there has been no voiced objection to you returning to the
game
> i feel a second chance might be in order. (( However i offer a word of
> caution  Play nice!!))
> enough said. I would also like to request you not select the same society
> that you previously played start fresh somewhere else on the continent .
>
> Now that thats all been said lets get  playing. For all the new people
please
> Take a look at the world and read through some of the societys see which
one
> may appeal to your liking. Then submit a write for a proposal and send it
to
> the list please Paul i think it would be best if you selet a society
already
> in the world of qaiyore. I dont feel introducing a new society at this
> moment is really appropriate.
>
> I think for everyone involved it would be wise to select a society
bordering
> somewhere along the in land sea of qaiyore. The submissions i already have
> tend to lean towards this area.
>
> Lets try to get this done about the end of this month so we may start 1436
> around the first of
> April
>
> And Finally M. K. I think i would prefer to change my decision to playing
one
> of the free cities Societies instead of the terebuani i will submit my
write
> up to the list  as well for your consideration.
>
> Well at thus end i think i have covered everyone so  please if i have left
> anyone out please
> let me know at your earliest convience regards Rick
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MelLian
Mellian

Fri

Mar 21
2003

04:40Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

> Mellian Since there has been no voiced objection to you returning to the
game
> i feel a second chance might be in order. (( However i offer a word of
> caution  Play nice!!))

I will :)


> enough said. I would also like to request you not select the same society
> that you previously played start fresh somewhere else on the continent .
>

but, I love the Razanians so much, and have so many ideas for them :(

my second choice is Cedonia, and they are pretty much in a similar position
as the Razanians....all divided up, fighting each other and so on... My goal
with the Razanians would be the same as Cedonia...to unite. Only difference
that i would have to start from square one like i did with the Razanians,
and there is no real threat, like Aryisa was to the Razanian Kingdoms, to
Cedonia.

As for anywhere else, there is no Society close to Midsea i can seriously
relate to or really all that interest in playing with. Razanians are like
the most detailed and thought out of all of the societies,  and would be
waste for someone who is familiar with them not play them.

Besides, I really keen in following up on the Airship idea, which will get
the Razanian Coast involve in the bigger stage, instead of being isolated
and fight among themselves.

-Mellian

...not arguing, just making my last bid to have the Razanians again...

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GeoffBonn
Geoff Bonn

Fri

Mar 21
2003

12:50Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

My honest opinion is that introducing an Airship would trigger a growth of
industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal here. I think
that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the Middle Ages.
So... I'm not sure.
 - Geoff

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JoelElfman
Joel Elfman

Fri

Mar 21
2003

16:47Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

Again, to encourage player interaction you might consider limiting the geographical area to start.  Please let me know if I should continue w/ East Torphan(Burcancy) or pick another society.
Joel
 Geoff Bonn  wrote:My honest opinion is that introducing an Airship would trigger a growth of
industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal here. I think
that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the Middle Ages.
So... I'm not sure.
- Geoff

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MelLian
Mellian

Sat

Mar 22
2003

02:25Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

There is already a growth of industrialism for producing Naval ships,
military equipment and weapons, massive construction projects, and etc in
Qaiyore. Also keep in mind that this is a Fantasy, as well as an Alternate
Earth, gmel, so Qaiyore isn't your typical Middle Age thing. Something i
kept pointing out in the past when i am thinking up actions, doesn't make
sense to strictly define Qaiyore in a real life history of the middle ages..
Anyway, the airship i envision is simply a ship with a zepellin balloon with
propellors instead of Sails and rudder...which is quite possible to
construct with middle age tech.

-Mellian


> My honest opinion is that introducing an Airship would trigger a growth of
> industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal here. I
think
> that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the Middle
Ages.
> So... I'm not sure.
>  - Geoff
>

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JoelElfman
Joel Elfman

Wed

May 21
2003

15:05Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

Are we starting again or what?

Geoff Bonn  wrote:My honest opinion is that introducing an Airship would trigger a growth of
industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal here. I think
that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the Middle Ages.
So... I'm not sure.
- Geoff

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ArchangelPressRe
Archangel Press, Remote Office

Wed

May 21
2003

17:06Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

I thought we had a new GM but I haven't seen or heard anything in about a
month.  I don't know what's up.  Horganus, are you out there?

mk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Elfman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon


> Are we starting again or what?
>
> Geoff Bonn  wrote:My honest opinion is that introducing an
Airship would trigger a growth of
> industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal here. I
think
> that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the Middle
Ages.
> So... I'm not sure.
> - Geoff
>
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IbrahimDughlasGa
ibrahim

Thu

May 22
2003

04:26Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

Not sure about the GM, but I'm still here (as is the Kaeirean Republic).

Ibrahim Underwood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Archangel Press, Remote Office" 
Date: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:06 am
Subject: Re: [Qai] [Admin]     Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

> I thought we had a new GM but I haven't seen or heard anything in 
> about a
> month.  I don't know what's up.  Horganus, are you out there?
> 
> mk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joel Elfman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon
> 
> 
> > Are we starting again or what?
> >
> > Geoff Bonn  wrote:My honest opinion is that 
> introducing an
> Airship would trigger a growth of
> > industrialism in Qaiyore, and I'm not sure if that's the goal 
> here. I
> think
> > that the game world has been planned to be almost stuck in the 
> MiddleAges.
> > So... I'm not sure.
> > - Geoff
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Iso88591Qpaul20c
=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Corrish?=

Mon

Jun 30
2003

22:10Z

[Qai] Do we still need a GM?

Firstly, sorry for my extended absence. From now on
I'll attempt to check my e-mails at least weekly

Secondly, if we do still need a GM, I'm still prepared
to take on that role. 

Either way I'd like to play as Tanimbar, either this
or next turn (if it's viable this, otherwise next)
which the websites says is available, I won't vary it
from the website version except to correspond with any
secret information the previous GMs are previous to
and visitors to the site are not. 

If appointed GM, I don't see too many problems with
the balloon idea - there are even people with
balloon-related titles on the other continent although
they were intended to apply to gliders, which I feel
research into should be a perquisite of the balloons. 

Just two more things: I'd like to make everything on
this list confidential to list members, but
displayable on website with poster permission. I'm
assuming I'm actually over stepping my authority -
Juha (did I finally get it right?), can you authorise
this, since I think it ought to be done with Moderator
(i.e. your) Authority. This is in line with the fact
that some people explicitly state it in their
signatures, I feel it should be implied, although the
other part of most of those signatures.

By law I am not allowed to show political bias or
subscribe to any mailing list that shows such bias.
Therefore I'd like to make discussing politics a
two-strike offence. The first time, you get a warning,
the next time after the warning, you have to leave the
list until you can stop posting political message.
Again, I feel this is a decision for the Moderator.


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JuhaVesanto
juuso

Wed

Jul 2
2003

06:43Z

[Qai] Do we still need a GM?

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Paul Corrish wrote:
> Secondly, if we do still need a GM, I'm still prepared
> to take on that role.

Well, there's not been a single mail from Horganus since
March 26th (upto which everything seemed to go fine), so
I think it is safe to that: yes, we do need a GM.

> Either way I'd like to play as Tanimbar, either this
> or next turn (if it's viable this, otherwise next)
> which the websites says is available, I won't vary it
> from the website version except to correspond with any
> secret information the previous GMs are previous to
> and visitors to the site are not.

Keaton, as the second GM, you have the final say on this,
but I don't see any obstacles to this.

> Just two more things: I'd like to make everything on
> this list confidential to list members, but
> displayable on website with poster permission. I'm
> assuming I'm actually over stepping my authority -
> Juha (did I finally get it right?),

Yep.

> can you authorise
> this, since I think it ought to be done with Moderator
> (i.e. your) Authority. This is in line with the fact
> that some people explicitly state it in their
> signatures, I feel it should be implied, although the
> other part of most of those signatures.

Hmmm... I'm not quite sure what you mean. The list is for
members only, but people outside the list can read it
through the web interface (at www.phoenyx.net). Filtering
the web interface selectively for each member is not
possible (with current administrative tools). Closing
the web interface would also require special arrangements
(and would be an inconvenience...).

> By law I am not allowed to show political bias or
> subscribe to any mailing list that shows such bias.
> Therefore I'd like to make discussing politics a
> two-strike offence. The first time, you get a warning,
> the next time after the warning, you have to leave the
> list until you can stop posting political message.
> Again, I feel this is a decision for the Moderator.

Well, that's fine by me. So far, there haven't been a
single conversation on Real-World(!) politics on this list (IIRC),
so I wouldn't expect(/welcome) such conversation in the future,
either.

juuso
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ArchangelPressRe
Archangel Press, Remote Office

Wed

Jul 2
2003

17:19Z

[Qai] Do we still need a GM?

(see below)
M. Keaton


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juha Vesanto (Juuso)" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Qai] Do we still need a GM?


| On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Paul Corrish wrote:
| > Secondly, if we do still need a GM, I'm still prepared
| > to take on that role.
|
| Well, there's not been a single mail from Horganus since
| March 26th (upto which everything seemed to go fine), so
| I think it is safe to that: yes, we do need a GM.
|

Agreed.  Horganus seems to have vanished.


| > Either way I'd like to play as Tanimbar, either this
| > or next turn (if it's viable this, otherwise next)
| > which the websites says is available, I won't vary it
| > from the website version except to correspond with any
| > secret information the previous GMs are previous to
| > and visitors to the site are not.
|
| Keaton, as the second GM, you have the final say on this,
| but I don't see any obstacles to this.
|

No problem.  Part of the reason we keep me around as a second GM is so the
main can play if he wants too.

| > Just two more things: I'd like to make everything on
| > this list confidential to list members, but
| > displayable on website with poster permission. I'm
| > assuming I'm actually over stepping my authority -
| > Juha (did I finally get it right?),
|
| Yep.
|
| > can you authorise
| > this, since I think it ought to be done with Moderator
| > (i.e. your) Authority. This is in line with the fact
| > that some people explicitly state it in their
| > signatures, I feel it should be implied, although the
| > other part of most of those signatures.
|
| Hmmm... I'm not quite sure what you mean. The list is for
| members only, but people outside the list can read it
| through the web interface (at www.phoenyx.net). Filtering
| the web interface selectively for each member is not
| possible (with current administrative tools). Closing
| the web interface would also require special arrangements
| (and would be an inconvenience...).
|
| > By law I am not allowed to show political bias or
| > subscribe to any mailing list that shows such bias.
| > Therefore I'd like to make discussing politics a
| > two-strike offence. The first time, you get a warning,
| > the next time after the warning, you have to leave the
| > list until you can stop posting political message.
| > Again, I feel this is a decision for the Moderator.
|
| Well, that's fine by me. So far, there haven't been a
| single conversation on Real-World(!) politics on this list (IIRC),
| so I wouldn't expect(/welcome) such conversation in the future,
| either.
|
| juuso

The only political discussions we have had fall into two categories:  either
historical examples to explain society actions (which is only marginally
political) and things such as the general outpouring of support following
the tragic events of 9/11 and the occasional passing mention of well-wishes
for Allied troops in the field (again, only marginally political, really
more simple expressions of humanity).

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Iso88591Qpaul20c
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Wed

Jul 2
2003

18:41Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

Please see below, new key points at end of message,
others at appropriate point

 --- "Archangel Press, Remote Office"
 wrote: > (see below)
> M. Keaton
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juha Vesanto (Juuso)" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qai] Do we still need a GM?
> 
> 
> | On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Paul Corrish wrote:
> | > Secondly, if we do still need a GM, I'm still
> prepared
> | > to take on that role.
> |
> | Well, there's not been a single mail from Horganus
> since
> | March 26th (upto which everything seemed to go
> fine), so
> | I think it is safe to that: yes, we do need a GM.
> |
> 
> Agreed.  Horganus seems to have vanished.
> 

OK, I'll take over as GM. I'll get my turn in soon. Is
a week on Sunday OK to end this turn with everyone, or
is it too soon?

> | > Either way I'd like to play as Tanimbar, either
> this
> | > or next turn (if it's viable this, otherwise
> next)
> | > which the websites says is available, I won't
> vary it
> | > from the website version except to correspond
> with any
> | > secret information the previous GMs are previous
> to
> | > and visitors to the site are not.
> |
> | Keaton, as the second GM, you have the final say
> on this,
> | but I don't see any obstacles to this.
> |
> 
> No problem.  Part of the reason we keep me around as
> a second GM is so the
> main can play if he wants too.
> 

OK I'm going to take over the society, I had one or
two ideas since posting, but these are best handled as
in-game actions performed by the various actors. I
note that Geoff Bonn has made the Tanimbar society one
of his two choices, if he's still intrested in
playing, he's welcome to be Cormenaera, his other
choice.

> | > Just two more things: I'd like to make
> everything on
> | > this list confidential to list members, but
> | > displayable on website with poster permission.

  | Hmmm... I'm not quite sure what you mean.
The list
> is for
> | members only, but people outside the list can read
> it
> | through the web interface (at www.phoenyx.net).
> Filtering
> | the web interface selectively for each member is
> not
> | possible (with current administrative tools).
> Closing
> | the web interface would also require special
> arrangements
> | (and would be an inconvenience...).
> |

Now I know what the problems with the request are,
let's just drop it.

> | > By law I am not allowed to show political bias
> or
> | > subscribe to any mailing list that shows such
> bias.
> | > Therefore I'd like to make discussing politics a
> | > two-strike offence. The first time, you get a
> warning,
> | > the next time after the warning, you have to
> leave the
> | > list until you can stop posting political
> message.
> | > Again, I feel this is a decision for the
> Moderator.
> |
> | Well, that's fine by me. So far, there haven't
> been a
> | single conversation on Real-World(!) politics on
> this list (IIRC),
> | so I wouldn't expect(/welcome) such conversation
> in the future,
> | either.
> |
> | juuso
> 
> The only political discussions we have had fall into
> two categories:  either
> historical examples to explain society actions
> (which is only marginally
> political) and things such as the general outpouring
> of support following
> the tragic events of 9/11 and the occasional passing
> mention of well-wishes
> for Allied troops in the field (again, only
> marginally political, really
> more simple expressions of humanity).
> 


No problem with the historical element, it's more pro-
or anti- administration or party things (regardless of
the nation(s) where the party is active), so if it is
just a well-wishing thing it shouldn't be a problem.


Are all the players still out there? I'd like them to
confirm there still there please.

At the moment I think we have the following players
(alphabetically by player display name), if your
display name or society name is wrong, please correct
it when you confirm. If your name isn't on the list
and you want to participate, please send your choice
of society and any alterations from the version on the
Qaiyore website to the list, where the exsisting
active list members will advise you on any changes
they would like.

Player Name, Player Society

Geoff Bonn, Cormenaera
Ibrahim Underwood, Kaeirean Repbulic
Joel Elfman, East Torphan aka Buerucracy
Juuso, Aixelsydan
Mellian, Razian (personally, I don't see what the
problem with this was, as long as you respect the GMs)
M. Keaton, The Eerith
M. Keaton, The Mir
Paul Corrish, Tanimbar

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Joel Elfman

Wed

Jul 2
2003

19:29Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

I'm here.  And it's Burcancy
 
Joel

Paul Corrish  wrote:
Please see below, new key points at end of message,
others at appropriate point

--- "Archangel Press, Remote Office"
wrote: > (see below)
> M. Keaton
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juha Vesanto (Juuso)" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qai] Do we still need a GM?
> 
> 
> | On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Paul Corrish wrote:
> | > Secondly, if we do still need a GM, I'm still
> prepared
> | > to take on that role.
> |
> | Well, there's not been a single mail from Horganus
> since
> | March 26th (upto which everything seemed to go
> fine), so
> | I think it is safe to that: yes, we do need a GM.
> |
> 
> Agreed. Horganus seems to have vanished.
> 

OK, I'll take over as GM. I'll get my turn in soon. Is
a week on Sunday OK to end this turn with everyone, or
is it too soon?

> | > Either way I'd like to play as Tanimbar, either
> this
> | > or next turn (if it's viable this, otherwise
> next)
> | > which the websites says is available, I won't
> vary it
> | > from the website version except to correspond
> with any
> | > secret information the previous GMs are previous
> to
> | > and visitors to the site are not.
> |
> | Keaton, as the second GM, you have the final say
> on this,
> | but I don't see any obstacles to this.
> |
> 
> No problem. Part of the reason we keep me around as
> a second GM is so the
> main can play if he wants too.
> 

OK I'm going to take over the society, I had one or
two ideas since posting, but these are best handled as
in-game actions performed by the various actors. I
note that Geoff Bonn has made the Tanimbar society one
of his two choices, if he's still intrested in
playing, he's welcome to be Cormenaera, his other
choice.

> | > Just two more things: I'd like to make
> everything on
> | > this list confidential to list members, but
> | > displayable on website with poster permission.

| Hmmm... I'm not quite sure what you mean.
The list
> is for
> | members only, but people outside the list can read
> it
> | through the web interface (at www.phoenyx.net).
> Filtering
> | the web interface selectively for each member is
> not
> | possible (with current administrative tools).
> Closing
> | the web interface would also require special
> arrangements
> | (and would be an inconvenience...).
> |

Now I know what the problems with the request are,
let's just drop it.

> | > By law I am not allowed to show political bias
> or
> | > subscribe to any mailing list that shows such
> bias.
> | > Therefore I'd like to make discussing politics a
> | > two-strike offence. The first time, you get a
> warning,
> | > the next time after the warning, you have to
> leave the
> | > list until you can stop posting political
> message.
> | > Again, I feel this is a decision for the
> Moderator.
> |
> | Well, that's fine by me. So far, there haven't
> been a
> | single conversation on Real-World(!) politics on
> this list (IIRC),
> | so I wouldn't expect(/welcome) such conversation
> in the future,
> | either.
> |
> | juuso
> 
> The only political discussions we have had fall into
> two categories: either
> historical examples to explain society actions
> (which is only marginally
> political) and things such as the general outpouring
> of support following
> the tragic events of 9/11 and the occasional passing
> mention of well-wishes
> for Allied troops in the field (again, only
> marginally political, really
> more simple expressions of humanity).
> 


No problem with the historical element, it's more pro-
or anti- administration or party things (regardless of
the nation(s) where the party is active), so if it is
just a well-wishing thing it shouldn't be a problem.


Are all the players still out there? I'd like them to
confirm there still there please.

At the moment I think we have the following players
(alphabetically by player display name), if your
display name or society name is wrong, please correct
it when you confirm. If your name isn't on the list
and you want to participate, please send your choice
of society and any alterations from the version on the
Qaiyore website to the list, where the exsisting
active list members will advise you on any changes
they would like.

Player Name, Player Society

Geoff Bonn, Cormenaera
Ibrahim Underwood, Kaeirean Repbulic
Joel Elfman, East Torphan aka Buerucracy
Juuso, Aixelsydan
Mellian, Razian (personally, I don't see what the
problem with this was, as long as you respect the GMs)
M. Keaton, The Eerith
M. Keaton, The Mir
Paul Corrish, Tanimbar

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Thu

Jul 3
2003

12:22Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Paul Corrish wrote:
> OK, I'll take over as GM. I'll get my turn in soon. Is
> a week on Sunday OK to end this turn with everyone, or
> is it too soon?

Fine by me.

> Are all the players still out there? I'd like them to
> confirm there still there please.

Here.

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Jul 3
2003

16:17Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

Quick correction
M. Keaton


| M. Keaton, The Eerith (The Eerith are a NPS race being GM controlled)
| M. Keaton, The Mir (The Mir are actually played by Jason Heaps.
Unfortunately, he is on a religious mission and has left instructions for
tending to the Mir until he gets back to a computer.  Thus far, since there
are plenty of societies and Mir has been way too busy in the last century of
Qai, no one has had a problem with this.)

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JoelElfman
Joel Elfman

Thu

Jul 3
2003

18:15Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

You might want to send individual emails to some of the old players to see if they are still interested.  Or put out a call for new ones.  W/ all the stopping and starting and it being summer there might not be a lot left.
 
Joel


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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Sun

Jul 6
2003

06:23Z

[Qai] [Admin] Do we still need a GM?

A few years back, I used to play in both Qaiyore & Elyria (Cedonia & Keland), but real life intervened, & I had to give it up. That said, I'd enjoy a chance to get back into the game, perhaps see if I can't put Cedonia back together again, or at least return it to some semblance of an organized nation-state. The impression I get of the current situation in the 'Empire' is that it's rather like the mess that was the Holy Roman Empire, divided into scores of petty principalities. Anyway, would there be any objection to my taking up the role of a Cedonian faction leader trying to either rebuild the Empire or carve out a new kingdom?
 
Andrew Janssen

Joel Elfman  wrote:
You might want to send individual emails to some of the old players to see if they are still interested. Or put out a call for new ones. W/ all the stopping and starting and it being summer there might not be a lot left.

Joel


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Iso88591Qpaul20c
=?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Corrish?=

Wed

Jul 9
2003

18:03Z

[Qai] [Admin] Status, Current year closing in 11 days!

Everyone please note I can be contacted at
thomas_silverfish((at))yahoo.co.uk 
or 
wiglar-owner((at))phoenyx.net
To get these to work please replace the ((at)) with
the @ symbol

I haven't had any replies from Mellian or Geoff, so
I've e-mailed the address each of them last sent to
the list from, as well as the list with this.

Geoff, Mellian, please confirm your intrest, psedonym
and society.

Michelle, I'm talking about running Qaiyore, I don't
think there's a Elyria GM out there at the moment but
your welcome to join Qaiyore as any unclaimed
exsisting society.

Andrew, of course I don't have any problems with you
running your old society of Cedonia, although I am
playing as Tanimbar, a former part of their empire, so
there may or may not be a need to have our secondry GM
(M. Keaton) run your moves, it's really up to how well
he feels I'll be able to handle the situation
(probably best to start with me as your GM but switch
if there are major problems).

Since it's such a long time since moves were
submitted, can I ask the people to either confirm the
move by posting a link to it's entry in the archive or
submit new moves. Can I also ask those of you who've
not submitted moves but have confirmed your society
details to submit your moves. Since there are so many
of us posting, I won't be closing this year on Sunday
14th, but will be closing it on Sunday 21st at 10am
BST (GMT+1), all moves should be submitted by then,
I'll process them between then and when I open
submissions for the next year.

Updated and corrected list: (Please note that I've
added PS to Player Societies, NPS to Non-Player
Societies and ? to Societies that are requested but
not confirmed.

Andrew Janssen, Cedonia (PS)
Ibrahim Underwood, Republic of Kaeir (PS)
Joel Elfman, East Torphan aka Burcany (PS)
Juuso, Aixelsydan (PS)
M. Keaton as secondry GM, The Eerith (NPS)
Paul Corrish, Tanimbar (PS)
M. Keaton as proxy for Jason Heaps, Mir (PS)
(Pending player acceptance) Geoff Bonn, Cormenaera (?)
(Pending player acceptance) Mellian, Razians (?)


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Wed

Jul 9
2003

18:58Z

[Qai] [Admin] Status, Current year closing in 11 days!

Oops, sorry Joel, I've just realised I've spelt your
societies name wrong. Everyone Joel is playing as East
Torphan aka the Burcancy. And I don't think I need
players to actually e-mail me the links, it seems it
was only Joel who'd replied anyway and I've 
copied his move into my next message.


> 
> Since it's such a long time since moves were
> submitted, can I ask the people to either confirm
> the
> move by posting a link to it's entry in the archive
> or
> submit new moves. Can I also ask those of you who've
> not submitted moves but have confirmed your society
> details to submit your moves. Since there are so
> many
> of us posting, I won't be closing this year on
> Sunday
> 14th, but will be closing it on Sunday 21st at 10am
> BST (GMT+1), all moves should be submitted by then,
> I'll process them between then and when I open
> submissions for the next year.
> 
> Updated and corrected list: (Please note that I've
> added PS to Player Societies, NPS to Non-Player
> Societies and ? to Societies that are requested but
> not confirmed.
> 
> Andrew Janssen, Cedonia (PS)
> Ibrahim Underwood, Republic of Kaeir (PS)
> Joel Elfman, East Torphan aka Burcany (PS)
> Juuso, Aixelsydan (PS)
> M. Keaton as secondry GM, The Eerith (NPS)
> Paul Corrish, Tanimbar (PS)
> M. Keaton as proxy for Jason Heaps, Mir (PS)
> (Pending player acceptance) Geoff Bonn, Cormenaera
> (?)
> (Pending player acceptance) Mellian, Razians (?)
> 

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MichelleMonroe
Michelle Monroe

Fri

Jul 4
2003

16:15Z

[Qai] Do we still need a GM?

Sorry, but what game are you talking about GMing, Qaiyore or Elyria?
 
I was in the midst of planning a society for the Elyria game when the GM disappeared. If it's to be started up again I'd still like to join in.


I feed from the dead.

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JoelElfman
Joel Elfman

Fri

Mar 21
2003

16:49Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

Mellian,
   Which empire just collapsed after the last huge battle?  Why not take that society or part of it and try and rebuild the empire.  That would give you plenty to do. :-)
Joel
 Mellian  wrote:> Mellian Since there has been no voiced objection to you returning to the
game
> i feel a second chance might be in order. (( However i offer a word of
> caution Play nice!!))

I will :)


> enough said. I would also like to request you not select the same society
> that you previously played start fresh somewhere else on the continent .
>

but, I love the Razanians so much, and have so many ideas for them :(

my second choice is Cedonia, and they are pretty much in a similar position
as the Razanians....all divided up, fighting each other and so on... My goal
with the Razanians would be the same as Cedonia...to unite. Only difference
that i would have to start from square one like i did with the Razanians,
and there is no real threat, like Aryisa was to the Razanian Kingdoms, to
Cedonia.

As for anywhere else, there is no Society close to Midsea i can seriously
relate to or really all that interest in playing with. Razanians are like
the most detailed and thought out of all of the societies, and would be
waste for someone who is familiar with them not play them.

Besides, I really keen in following up on the Airship idea, which will get
the Razanian Coast involve in the bigger stage, instead of being isolated
and fight among themselves.

-Mellian

...not arguing, just making my last bid to have the Razanians again...

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MelLian
Mellian

Sat

Mar 22
2003

02:42Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Elfman" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon


> Mellian,
>    Which empire just collapsed after the last huge battle?  Why not take
that society or part of it and try and rebuild the empire.  That would give
you plenty to do. :-)

The Cedonia empire, which is currently divided into various factions lead by
various Generals ever sense the Dark Elves successfully kidnapped the
emperess.

 I would be rebuilding and uniting with the Razanians as well....

so the only difference between my two chocies  is the size of the society,
level of technology, one i have more room to mold to my view while the other
will past the stage of constant warfare and well on their way to unite.
Both societies have a lot of possibilitis for sure, but don't to face to
much internal warfare....unless the Moderator can quickly resolve some
general actions for the missed turns since the last player.  Of course, I
request that for both my choices :p

also really depends on which area of Qaiyore want to group the players
together...

-Mellian

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juuso

Sat

Mar 22
2003

05:54Z

[Qai] [Admin] Welcome 1436 is approaching soon

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Mellian wrote:
>  I would be rebuilding and uniting with the Razanians as well....

Hmmm... obviously Mellian has a lot of ideas for Razanians, and
would be a very resourceful player. Of course that may be both
a blessing and a curse: the latter in the case when the player
pulls continuously new stuff from thin air to support his/her
society.

Here's my idea: I could take on one of the Razanian parties: maybe
Aryisa. Between us, Mellian and me could play out the unification of
the coast (or not, as it may be). That way, I could be a check to
Mellians "creative" forces :), and we could get some player
interaction on the coast side.

Alternatively, I could play the adversary role: ie. the Aixelsydan.
Of course, I could first play Aryisa (for example), and then later
start to play Aixelsydan.

Regarding the airship: well, as a balloon type of thing, why not.
Remember that the air balloon were invented in Europe in the 18th century,
and it was only a curiosity for a long long time.  Whether or not it can
be industrialized, or used reliably in travel (as the zeppelins between
the world wars) is far, far to the future. My suggestion is to let
the Razanians have their balloon, but load it with heavy difficulities.
That way it can remain an interesting peculiarity (a spice) without any
revolutionary implications.

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