Hi, sorry for the delay in starting the new year. Anyway, this email starts year 1442. Actions are due in 2 weeks, and 2 weeks after that we'll start the next year. Only one event for this year: *Shanari [+4]:* The war between eastern and western tribes ends in a tentative peace agreement arranged by priests of the Millat Shanari. And then Visions, part VI: Bel na Yore checked the water-clock standing on a platform between the two entrances to the auditorium, and noticed that the time for the lecture was almost up. "Well, it seems we only have a few moments left. As a summary", Bel said, and theatrically pointed to the blackboard behind him, which was full of diagrams, "as Arane of Palath showed three centuries ago, and we have witnessed here by the power of geometry, the common view of the world being flat is simply wrong. Although at first glance this appears to be the most obvious answer, it is overruled by long-range observations, principally at sea. Instead, the world is a sphere with a diameter of approximately 3000 miles. Questions, please." A youthful student raised his arm, and when given permission, asked the first question: "How about the moons?" "If Celandra is a sphere, to my mind, the only sensible assumption is that the moons are also spheres." "With all respect, are you not applying the Law of Similarity without justification. Obviously, there are considerable differences between the world and the moons." "Indeed, many differences exist, but I think the spherical form is also the simplest explanation to existing evidence." "But I think that also the Law of Simplification is inapplicable here. Both the world and the moon are, to my mind, objects of the Shape, and not objects of Nature. Therefore, the Shaper of Celandra may have created them as complex objects rather than simple ones. And, as evidenced by the Dreaming, complexity in Shape is simply a question of choice." "I have not the experience of the Dreaming, or the shapers of its Realms, but I would hazard a guess that maintaining a simple Shape is easier than a complex one. But Celandra is not like the Dreaming. On Celandra Nature is the predominating factor, and therefore also its Shape is fundamentally simple." "That may be. However, also the spherical form of the world is in question here. The Sphere Theorem is based on observations. How can we know, that the observations are not only true locally, and elsewhere some opposite observations might be true? Or that the world was not designed in such a way that this Theorem would appear to be true - as a test, or a joke?" "Hmph. As for the observations, the Theorem is not based on a single observation, but many, from a number of different locations. Your other suggestion belongs more the realm of the absurd than natural philosophy. While theoretically possible, I refuse to consider Celandra as a joke on the late Arane of Palath." Irritated, Bel pointed to another student: "Next, please." "Sir, can geometry say something about the age of Celandra? The Moons being used to measure time, and all..." "No. Geometry, in this case, only answers questions of 'Now', they do not tell of the past." "But sir, how can we then determine the age of our world?" "I'm afraid we cannot. And therefore the whole question is moot. As time is local in terms of Dreaming, we cannot trust outside observers in telling what time it is in this world. History has reliable memories of upto 4000 years back, and there are indicators of older constructions. But there's no way to know how long the world existed before them - before civilization had a chance to participate in shaping our world. Since we cannot know the age, I cannot consider it as a worthy object of study for natural philosophy." "Sir, wouldn't the Shaper know the age, or the Creator?" "Well, even assuming they are not the one and the same, there has never been a verified contact to either. Personally, I believe that the Shaper of Celandra cannot be contacted: either the Shaper never actually existed, or the Shaper is Celandra." Bel picked one of the students from the audience: "Last question, please." "What if there were another Celandra - wouldn't its shaper know the answer?" "Hmph. I very much doubt that. In general, I highly disagree with the whole 'World Egg' legend; Celandra is a unique place in the whole cosmos, and there will never be 'Another Celandra'." A soft 'clink' from the the water-clock announced the beginning of a new hour. "That's it, we'll see again next week." juuso PS. I have added new, tentative rules for combat on the website. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send mail to celandra-off@phoenyx.net.
In a message dated 2/24/04 2:27:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, juuso@iki.fi writes: > Irritated, Bel pointed to another student: "Next, please." "Sir. Since we know that the lesser moon does not travel in a circle, does the law of relation imply that the lesser moon is not a sphere?" ? Jefferson (Exquaestio) http://www.picotech.net/~jeff_wilson63/rpg/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send mail to celandra-off@phoenyx.net.
RulingNations@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/24/04 2:27:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, juuso@iki.fi >writes: > > > >> Irritated, Bel pointed to another student: "Next, please." >> >> > >"Sir. Since we know that the lesser moon does not travel in a circle, does >the law of relation imply that the lesser moon is not a sphere?" > > :-) I added the following: "Sir. Since the lesser moon grows and wanes quite unlike the greater moon, does the Law of Relation imply that the lesser moon is not a sphere?" "No, it does not imply that. What Law of Relation implies is that that is a possibility. However, what I believe instead is that the lesser moon does not travel in a circle, however absurd that may sound." ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send mail to celandra-off@phoenyx.net.
Talk about bad dice. :-) And I thought I was writing an easy set of actions. LOL!!! Joel Actions for Burcancy Action submission Burcancy 1444 - Action 1 - King Villard, the Queen, children and many other nobles attend the celebration of Mir. Bring many gifts, to acknowledge the close bonds between Burcancy and Mir. Villard makes a speech before the assembled. "Greetings to all assembled, and to His Most Noble Archmage. We come today to honor one most wise. One hundred years is a long-life and I am sure we will see many more years from this Great leader. But years mean nothing, they have little purpose if their purpose is not for the prosperity of future generations. In recognition of the strength of the bonds between our two speical nations. I am announcing that I am abdicating my throne so that my children and their children also of Mir may take the throne of the Burcancy. The crowning will take place next year, and although typically the ceremony has been run solely by the Church, the Ophier and the Brotherhood. In recognition of the special bonds between our nations we ask that Mir participate in the crowning ceremony. In further recognition of the trust the children of future generations place upon us, we return to Mir, the blood of their children, the V'raal. The blood they sent us upon their flag. We have cleaned their flag and returned it to them, so it might fly with a peaceful heart. But the blood of such special children we give to those who have loved them and guided them for so many years, so it will not be misused or spilled further. We ask that the Mir, turn its parental countenance upon these children who appear to have lost their way among the nations assembled. For, we have fought w/ the V'raal but we realize that is not the way to deal w/ recalcitrant children, and we ask the Mir to once again shine their light upon their misguided charges. Too long have the V'raal been lost in the darkness, they must brought within a bright circle once again. In final recognition of the relationship between parents and children, we deeply regret our removal of the removal of the V'raal Prince from his mother's care. We will present ourselves before the Queen to express our regrets and we will return her child to her if she agrees that all her children and their future generations are to be tutored by the Burcancy and Mir. We take this actions to honor the Archmage and the future generations he holds dear. " Action 2 - Villard abdicates Difficulty - Easy?. Easy to do, but many in the Kingdom might protest. His sons and daughter have all proved capable so the resistance should not be difficult. Action 3 - Villard returns the blood of the V'raal to Mir, and asks them to guide their charges (It is my understanding that the V'raal are or were under the charge, care and feeding of Mir at one point.) Difficulty - Easy?. The blood has already been taken from its original source. And is simple to ask Mir to intervene. What they will choose to do is another story. Action 4 - Villard offers the Queen the return of her kidnapped child and to presonally present him in exchange for all her children being tutored by the Burcancy and the Mir. The tutors must be protected, kept safe, and allowed to come and go freely. Difficulty - Average? - The Queen has been asking/threatening for her child for many years. The Queen &/or V'raal might protest the conditions though. Action resolution Action 1: The Announcement Resolution: Diff = Normal (0) + Dice (+-0-) + Extras () = -1 Failure Results: Interpretation: The announcement cretes much confusion among the guests. The V'raal definetly do not like being called anyone's "misguided charges". The V'raal ambassador present storms away from the palace and refuses to participate in celebrations at all. Action 2: Villard abdicates Resolution: Diff = Normal (0) + Dice (--00) + Extras () = -2 Failure Results: Interpretation: Villar's announcement is even more confusing for his countrymen, especially with the current issue of Vizinia that Cedonia has brought up. Action 3: Villard's gift to Mir Resolution: Diff = Normal (0) + Dice (--00) + Extras () = -2 Failure Results: Interpretation: (Mir's reaction?) Action 4: Villard's offer to the Queen Resolution: Diff = Hard (-1) + Dice (---+) + Extras () = -3 Severe failure Results: No. Interpretation: The V'raal will not accept these outrageous terms. King Villard is welcome to visit V'raal, but at his own peril. A blood vow can not be settled except by blood. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send mail to celandra-off@phoenyx.net.
