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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Thu

Feb 3
2005

08:20Z

[Cel] Addition to Website

I've added a history section to the Phoenyx site. It's pretty much a 
striaght-up copy of the history from the old site, but I've added some 
details, largely about Cedonia.

With the histories Wiki'ed, it should be much easier to fill in the 
historical blanks.

I have yet to add the Modern Age stuff, but that will eventually be added.

Andrew
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JasonHeaps
Jason Heaps

Thu

Feb 3
2005

20:09Z

[Cel] Addition to Website

sorry for not getting back to you sooner Andrew.  I was fine with most of your proposal but a comment on Prince Bucerad and the army.  He only had the human armies that were for cedonia and the surronding areas.  Mir still had a large amount of their human army left even after the rebellion.  Most of the rebellions success lay in the fact that the Council of Twelve were still fighting over a new Archmage and had openly started fighting with each other.  Most of the southern parts of the Empire stayed loyal to Mir, but haveing lost the will to fight Mir created what became the Torphan Empire and Mir withdrew back to its island.  Read my updated history that i sent a couple of months ago it explains most of this in more detail.  If you would like I could send it again.  I want it on the page but it so huge that I just have not felt up the task.  
 
Jason Heaps

Andrew Janssen  wrote:
I've added a history section to the Phoenyx site. It's pretty much a 
striaght-up copy of the history from the old site, but I've added some 
details, largely about Cedonia.

With the histories Wiki'ed, it should be much easier to fill in the 
historical blanks.

I have yet to add the Modern Age stuff, but that will eventually be added.

Andrew
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Fri

Feb 4
2005

08:36Z

[Cel] Addition to Website

Jason Heaps wrote:
> sorry for not getting back to you sooner Andrew.  I was fine with most of your proposal but a comment on Prince Bucerad and the army.  He only had the human armies that were for cedonia and the surronding areas.  Mir still had a large amount of their human army left even after the rebellion.  Most of the rebellions success lay in the fact that the Council of Twelve were still fighting over a new Archmage and had openly started fighting with each other.  Most of the southern parts of the Empire stayed loyal to Mir, but haveing lost the will to fight Mir created what became the Torphan Empire and Mir withdrew back to its island.  Read my updated history that i sent a couple of months ago it explains most of this in more detail.  If you would like I could send it again.  I want it on the page but it so huge that I just have not felt up the task.  

I can certainly make changes--I was trying to find a way of explaining 
just how Cedonia expanded so quickly. Even if Bucerad wasn't in command 
of all human armies, just the non-Mir humans, or even the 
Cedonian/Selarian humans, he was in a position to subvert a lot of 
people, and to take advantage of the chaos.

As for the Southern or Torphani Shore, my understanding had been that 
when Mir withdrew to Celamyr, the Torphani moved in and occupied the 
Shore, not that Mir created the Empire of Torphan. IIRC, Torphan was 
never conquered by any MidSea nation, although they certainly had chunks 
ripped off from time to time.

Andrew

> Jason Heaps
> 
> Andrew Janssen  wrote:
> I've added a history section to the Phoenyx site. It's pretty much a 
> striaght-up copy of the history from the old site, but I've added some 
> details, largely about Cedonia.
> 
> With the histories Wiki'ed, it should be much easier to fill in the 
> historical blanks.
> 
> I have yet to add the Modern Age stuff, but that will eventually be added.
> 
> Andrew
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JasonHeaps
Jason Heaps

Fri

Feb 4
2005

16:18Z

[Cel] Addition to Website

No Torphan was part of the Mirrish Empire.  Back when there was a Torphan player.  We worked that torphan emerged out of the southern remnates of the Mirish Empire in the before stated process.  This explained several things.  The organization of Torphans sorcerers, and why they don't call their leader and Archmage, and also why they have always been willing to come to meetings called by the Archmages, and why they were willing to open relations with Mir again.  
 
Also remember that the Archmage, who the common people would have know as the Emperor, is alsot he High Priest of the Goddess Miracradsa and so her repersenative on Celandra  It is very possible that the torphan Emperors immediatly following the evaculation of Mir from the continent tried to establish a similar situation, not nessiarlly with Miracradsa, and it grew beyond that into deification of the Emperors.
 
Jason Heaps

Andrew Janssen  wrote:
Jason Heaps wrote:
> sorry for not getting back to you sooner Andrew. I was fine with most of your proposal but a comment on Prince Bucerad and the army. He only had the human armies that were for cedonia and the surronding areas. Mir still had a large amount of their human army left even after the rebellion. Most of the rebellions success lay in the fact that the Council of Twelve were still fighting over a new Archmage and had openly started fighting with each other. Most of the southern parts of the Empire stayed loyal to Mir, but haveing lost the will to fight Mir created what became the Torphan Empire and Mir withdrew back to its island. Read my updated history that i sent a couple of months ago it explains most of this in more detail. If you would like I could send it again. I want it on the page but it so huge that I just have not felt up the task. 

I can certainly make changes--I was trying to find a way of explaining 
just how Cedonia expanded so quickly. Even if Bucerad wasn't in command 
of all human armies, just the non-Mir humans, or even the 
Cedonian/Selarian humans, he was in a position to subvert a lot of 
people, and to take advantage of the chaos.

As for the Southern or Torphani Shore, my understanding had been that 
when Mir withdrew to Celamyr, the Torphani moved in and occupied the 
Shore, not that Mir created the Empire of Torphan. IIRC, Torphan was 
never conquered by any MidSea nation, although they certainly had chunks 
ripped off from time to time.

Andrew

> Jason Heaps
> 
> Andrew Janssen wrote:
> I've added a history section to the Phoenyx site. It's pretty much a 
> striaght-up copy of the history from the old site, but I've added some 
> details, largely about Cedonia.
> 
> With the histories Wiki'ed, it should be much easier to fill in the 
> historical blanks.
> 
> I have yet to add the Modern Age stuff, but that will eventually be added.
> 
> Andrew
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JeffersonWilson
Jefferson

Sat

Feb 5
2005

07:00Z

[Cel] Addition to Website

Andrew Janssen wrote:

>>I've added a history section to the Phoenyx site. It's pretty much a 
>>striaght-up copy of the history from the old site, but I've added some 
>>details, largely about Cedonia.

Under "Age of Cedonia" year 30: "The conquest of Orasaren is complete by 
1294."  This must be incorrect, but I don't know what the correct date would 
be.  294?

Jefferson (Exquaestio)
http://www.picotech.net/~jeff_wilson63/rpg/Exq_Main.html



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