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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Wed

Apr 13
2005

06:09Z

[Cel] Philosophers of the MidSea

Ibrahim: here's some thoughts on possible Millati sects. Feel free to 
use this or not:

Scaltast gyo Gomelus, a.k.a Marlupin
  (Redstar of Gomel)       (Little Wolf)

1394: Born in Gomel
1411-1415: Attends University of Thalsedon, acquires nickname
1415: Joins Order of Lusia
1415-1418: Lecturer on Ethics, University of Thalsedon
1416: Promoted to Priest of Lusia
1418: Exiled over his political writings
1418-1419: Attends University of Mirabalpur
1419-1424: Serves with the Allied Army in the Sinari War
1420: Meets an Eerith for first time
1425-1430: Assistant Professor of Philosophy, University of Mirabalpur
1426: Dicusses nature of divinity with the Eerith at the University
1428: Renounces his vows as a Priest of Lusia
1430: Fired from University of Mirabalpur for sexual misconduct
       Moves to Port Kaeir
1430-1440: Tutors children of the Great Houses, becomes peripherally
            involved in the founding of the Republic.
1441: Goes on a pilgrimage to the Holy City of Akbari, converts to 

       Millati faith
1454: Writes _A Dissent_ and _On Dreaming_

. . . .

After Keeper von Kashaar published _10 Points On The Fallacies Of 
Anti-Magicalism_ in 1453, Marlupin responded by publishing his essay _A 
Dissent_ in 1454.  Marlupin argued that all creations of the Creator 
have a purpose, from the rocks on the ground to the lesser gods. He then 
argued that since the purpose of Coron is to protect souls and destroy 
the undead, the purpose of Lusia is to dispell illusion and reveal 
truth, the purpose of Demerhaze is to bind and unsummon demons, etc. 
etc., it is perfectly permissible to call upon those lesser gods in 
order that they might fulfill their Divine purpose.

Marlupin later wrote in _On Dreaming_ that the various lesser gods could 
be best described as archangels, angels, demons, or archdemons, 
depending on their powers and morality. He also wrote that
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Wed

Apr 13
2005

06:10Z

[Cel] Philosophers of the MidSea

Argh! I wanted to hit 'Save' and I hit 'Send' instead! :(

Andrew

Andrew Janssen wrote:

> Ibrahim: here's some thoughts on possible Millati sects. Feel free to 
> use this or not:
> 
> Scaltast gyo Gomelus, a.k.a Marlupin
>  (Redstar of Gomel)       (Little Wolf)
> 
> 1394: Born in Gomel
> 1411-1415: Attends University of Thalsedon, acquires nickname
> 1415: Joins Order of Lusia
> 1415-1418: Lecturer on Ethics, University of Thalsedon
> 1416: Promoted to Priest of Lusia
> 1418: Exiled over his political writings
> 1418-1419: Attends University of Mirabalpur
> 1419-1424: Serves with the Allied Army in the Sinari War
> 1420: Meets an Eerith for first time
> 1425-1430: Assistant Professor of Philosophy, University of Mirabalpur
> 1426: Dicusses nature of divinity with the Eerith at the University
> 1428: Renounces his vows as a Priest of Lusia
> 1430: Fired from University of Mirabalpur for sexual misconduct
>       Moves to Port Kaeir
> 1430-1440: Tutors children of the Great Houses, becomes peripherally
>            involved in the founding of the Republic.
> 1441: Goes on a pilgrimage to the Holy City of Akbari, converts to
>       Millati faith
> 1454: Writes _A Dissent_ and _On Dreaming_
> 
> . . . .
> 
> After Keeper von Kashaar published _10 Points On The Fallacies Of 
> Anti-Magicalism_ in 1453, Marlupin responded by publishing his essay _A 
> Dissent_ in 1454.  Marlupin argued that all creations of the Creator 
> have a purpose, from the rocks on the ground to the lesser gods. He then 
> argued that since the purpose of Coron is to protect souls and destroy 
> the undead, the purpose of Lusia is to dispell illusion and reveal 
> truth, the purpose of Demerhaze is to bind and unsummon demons, etc. 
> etc., it is perfectly permissible to call upon those lesser gods in 
> order that they might fulfill their Divine purpose.
> 
> Marlupin later wrote in _On Dreaming_ that the various lesser gods could 
> be best described as archangels, angels, demons, or archdemons, 
> depending on their powers and morality. He also wrote that
> 

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IbrahimDughlasGa
ibrahim

Wed

Apr 13
2005

06:14Z

[Cel] Philosophers of the MidSea

: )

Its cool.  What you've written actually beats me the punch on something 
I was thinking about. 

But i'll hold off until you're able to finish it.  Sounds good though.

cheers,

Ibrahim

Andrew Janssen wrote:

>Argh! I wanted to hit 'Save' and I hit 'Send' instead! :(
>
>Andrew
>
>Andrew Janssen wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Ibrahim: here's some thoughts on possible Millati sects. Feel free to 
>>use this or not:
>>
>>Scaltast gyo Gomelus, a.k.a Marlupin
>> (Redstar of Gomel)       (Little Wolf)
>>
>>1394: Born in Gomel
>>1411-1415: Attends University of Thalsedon, acquires nickname
>>1415: Joins Order of Lusia
>>1415-1418: Lecturer on Ethics, University of Thalsedon
>>1416: Promoted to Priest of Lusia
>>1418: Exiled over his political writings
>>1418-1419: Attends University of Mirabalpur
>>1419-1424: Serves with the Allied Army in the Sinari War
>>1420: Meets an Eerith for first time
>>1425-1430: Assistant Professor of Philosophy, University of Mirabalpur
>>1426: Dicusses nature of divinity with the Eerith at the University
>>1428: Renounces his vows as a Priest of Lusia
>>1430: Fired from University of Mirabalpur for sexual misconduct
>>      Moves to Port Kaeir
>>1430-1440: Tutors children of the Great Houses, becomes peripherally
>>           involved in the founding of the Republic.
>>1441: Goes on a pilgrimage to the Holy City of Akbari, converts to
>>      Millati faith
>>1454: Writes _A Dissent_ and _On Dreaming_
>>
>>. . . .
>>
>>After Keeper von Kashaar published _10 Points On The Fallacies Of 
>>Anti-Magicalism_ in 1453, Marlupin responded by publishing his essay _A 
>>Dissent_ in 1454.  Marlupin argued that all creations of the Creator 
>>have a purpose, from the rocks on the ground to the lesser gods. He then 
>>argued that since the purpose of Coron is to protect souls and destroy 
>>the undead, the purpose of Lusia is to dispell illusion and reveal 
>>truth, the purpose of Demerhaze is to bind and unsummon demons, etc. 
>>etc., it is perfectly permissible to call upon those lesser gods in 
>>order that they might fulfill their Divine purpose.
>>
>>Marlupin later wrote in _On Dreaming_ that the various lesser gods could 
>>be best described as archangels, angels, demons, or archdemons, 
>>depending on their powers and morality. He also wrote that
>>
>>    
>>
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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Wed

Apr 13
2005

06:35Z

[Cel] Philosophers of the MidSea

Ok, here's the finished stuff:

 From _Great Minds of the MidSea_, University of Thalsedon Press, 1460

Scaltast gyo Gomelus, a.k.a Marlupin
  (Redstar of Gomel)       (Little Wolf)

1394: Born in Gomel
1411-1415: Attends University of Thalsedon, acquires nickname
1415: Joins Order of Lusia
1415-1418: Lecturer on Ethics, University of Thalsedon
1416: Promoted to Priest of Lusia
1418: Exiled over his political writings
1418-1419: Attends University of Mirabalpur
1419-1424: Serves with the Allied Army in the Sinari War
1420: Meets an Eerith for first time
1425-1430: Assistant Professor of Philosophy, University of Mirabalpur
1426: Dicusses nature of divinity with the Eerith at the University
1428: Renounces his vows as a Priest of Lusia
1430: Fired from University of Mirabalpur for sexual misconduct
       Moves to Port Kaeir
1430-1440: Tutors children of the Great Houses, becomes peripherally
            involved in the founding of the Republic.
1441: Goes on a pilgrimage to the Holy City of Akbari, converts to
       Millati faith
1454: Writes _A Dissent_, _On Dreaming_, and _The Nature of Dream_
1456: Becomes the spiritual leader of the Marlupinist sect of the
       Millati

. . . .

After Keeper von Kashaar published _10 Points On The Fallacies Of
Anti-Magicalism_ in 1453, Marlupin responded by publishing his essay _A
Dissent_ in 1454.  Marlupin argued that all creations of the Creator
have a purpose, from the rocks on the ground to the lesser gods. He then
argued that since the purpose of Coron is to protect souls and destroy
the undead, the purpose of Lusia is to dispell illusion and reveal
truth, the purpose of Demerhaze is to bind and unsummon demons, etc.
etc., it is perfectly permissible to call upon those lesser gods in
order that they might fulfill their Divine purpose.

Marlupin later wrote in _On Dreaming_ that the various lesser gods could
be best described as archangels, angels, demons, or archdemons,
depending on their powers and morality. He also wrote that while the 
'archangels' and 'angels' should not be worshipped as gods, they should 
be honored and respected as Servants of the Divine Will. More 
controversially, he wrote that 'demons' and 'archdemons' are also 
ultimately Servants of the Divine Will, Whose Purposes are ineffable.

In his third essay of 1454, _The Nature of Dream_, Marlupin advanced the 
proposition, based on his experiences as a Priest of Lusia, that the 
portions of von Kashaar's _10 Points_ dealing with the separation of the 
Real from the Other-Real are fundamentally flawed, in that given that 
humans are composed of both Spirit and Substance, and that the 
Other-Real is the natural home of Spirit, the ability of the Spirit of a 
sleeping Human to cross the Separation into the Dreaming and interact 
with the Beings there is not a Rebellion against Nature. After death, 
Marlupin wrote, the Substance returns to Celandra while the Spirit 
returns to the Dreaming.

Marlupin's works spawned several sects: the Angelist or Marlupinist 
Millati, who followed his teachings on the nature of the lesser gods and 
dreams ; the Unsleeping Millati, who interpreted _The Nature of Dreams_ 
to mean that sleeping and dreaming were sinful, and who tried to sleep 
as little as possible; and the Transcendant Millati, who believed that 
one should try to seperate the Spirit from the Substance as quickly as 
possible, and that procreation was sinful, since it trapped Spirit in 
Substance.


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AndrewJanssen
Andrew Janssen

Wed

Apr 13
2005

07:57Z

[Cel] Philosophers of the MidSea

Andrew Janssen wrote:

> Ok, here's the finished stuff:
> 
>  From _Great Minds of the MidSea_, University of Thalsedon Press, 1460
> 
> Scaltast gyo Gomelus, a.k.a Marlupin
>   (Redstar of Gomel)       (Little Wolf)
> 
> 1394: Born in Gomel
> 1411-1415: Attends University of Thalsedon, acquires nickname



Scaltast gyo Gomelus, or Scaltast von Gomel, to use the Kaeiran style, 
acquired his nickname from a classmate at the University of Thalcedon. 
After having faced gyo Gomelus in an informal debate over the question 
of objectivism versus subjectivism, fellow philosophy student Tomas 
Leconros described him as "a roly-poly four feet, nine inches of howling 
lunacy and barking madness who chews on facts like a wolf pup chews on 
bones," hence the nickname Marlupin, or "Little Wolf".

Andrew
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