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Celandra is a game in which the players take the roles of societies, rather than playing individual characters. The players will invent a society with its culture and heritage, and will guide its development and interaction with the world. Emphasis will be be placed on developing a detailed history of Celandra, along with myths and legends.
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Iso88591Qibrahim
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Mon

Sep 12
2005

05:29Z

[Cel] absence from game for 1459

hi folks,

I might be absent from the game for a few weeks.  I
decided this weekend 
to return to Australia for a number of personal
reasons, and am 
returning on Thursday.
Not sure if I will have immediate access to the net,
plus i'll be 
getting my head together so i may not have time
immediately.  I'm not 
quitting, but predicting a slight absence....... : )

A pity, as the Taltherani stuff is quite interesting,
and there are a 
lot of things i want to write up about it.  Plus, a
story development 
involving the Green Lady and the Brotherhood of the
Night that I 
definitely do want to pursue.

I've submitted my 1458 orders, but probably won't have
time to respond 
or do any write ups.

cheers to you all and be talking to you all in a few
weeks,

Ibrahim

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If I can't get my 1459 turn in time, here's what I
expect I would have done:

1459 outline:

1.  Integration/Subjugation of Saltrim

Depending on the outcome of 1458, then the Kaeirean
expeditionary force 
to Saltrim City either has to subjugate the resisting
forces (perhaps 
with the help of Saltrimi houses that joined the
Kaeirean forces), or if 
the matter was settled peacefully, has begun the
process of integrating 
Saltrim into the Republic.

Duration: 1 of ?
Weight: Normal/Hard
Key Elements:  Kaeirean expeditionary force,
intelligence arm of the 
Office of the Inquisitor, Osric Basiluddin (his
personality and status 
alone is significant), Saltrimi Conclave, Guilds.

2.  Integration/Subjugation of Corryn

Depending on the outcome of 1458, then the Millati
expeditionary force 
to Corryn either has to subjugate the resisting
forces, or if the matter 
was settled peacefully, has begun the process of
establishing the joint 
Holy Tower of the South/Mirrish Church of the Creator
protectorate over 
Corryn.

However, should the 1458 attempt have gone badly, and
Millati officials 
killed, then the situation may have become far worse
(if say, the new 
Keeper of the Tower of Corryn was murdered, then
Millati in Kaeir and 
the Shanari Commonwealth might be tempted to become
more involved).

Duration: 1 of ?
Weight: Normal/Hard
Key Elements:  Millati expeditionary force,
Nightbrothers' mission, 
Corryn nobles and merchants, Millati Corrynese.

3.  Aid to the Panchayyah

Popo, i forget what we agreed upon regarding Kaeirean
aid to the 
Panchayyah for 1459.  I'll leave this to you (but
remember, no Kaeirean 
military involvement this year : )   ).

4.  Sedonian-Kaeirean agreement on Rimrivertown trade
access

Kaeir will agree to the Sedonian request, with the
consent of the 
Panchayyah Grand Chief Dheskerallai of course,
granting 8 2-year passes 
(as per the initial Sedonian request).

Sedonia may appoint a Trade Commissioner in lieu of a
diplomatic 
representative in Rimrivertown.  Assumably he would
not be part of the 
intelligence service ; )

Popo, any comments? 

Kaeirean conditions are:

- a permanent naval mission in Tolmersa, sufficient
for the repair and 
resupplying of Kaeirean ships, with the diplomatic
status of a Kaeirean 
consulate.  The naval mission would be small, staffed
only by a 
commandin officer, clerks, a Ministry of Commerce
official, a company of 
Colonial Guard, and handful of engineers from the
Kaeirean Fleet Arsenal 
in Kahshaartown.  Its main duties would be the
monitoring of Kaeirean 
commerce travelling through the Straits, the passing
on of information 
between Kaeirean merchants, the detention of persons
who have committed 
crimes aboard a sea-going Kaeirean vessel until they
can be transferred 
back to Port Kaeir.  The mission would also be
autonomous within its own 
territory, though residents of the mission who commit
crimes outside of 
the mission would be of course, answerable to Sedonian
law.

- 10 scholarships to the University of Thalsedon, and
10 military 
scholarships to the (not sure of the name here) Legion
Officer's 
college.  These scholarships would be renewed
individually as individual 
scholars completed their studies and returned home.

- Sedonian sanction for the preaching of the Millat in
eastern Sedonia 
(Tirmar/Old Timar).


		
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Mon

Sep 12
2005

06:53Z

[Cel] absence from game for 1459

Now that I seem to have solved my e-mail issues with a workaround, I can 
send this:

Comments below, interspersed.

> 4.  Sedonian-Kaeirean agreement on Rimrivertown trade
> access
> 
> Kaeir will agree to the Sedonian request, with the
> consent of the 
> Panchayyah Grand Chief Dheskerallai of course,
> granting 8 2-year passes 
> (as per the initial Sedonian request).
> 
> Sedonia may appoint a Trade Commissioner in lieu of a
> diplomatic 
> representative in Rimrivertown.  Assumably he would
> not be part of the 
> intelligence service ; )
>

Naturally not. ;)

> Popo, any comments? 
> 
> Kaeirean conditions are:
> 
> - a permanent naval mission in Tolmersa, sufficient
> for the repair and 
> resupplying of Kaeirean ships, with the diplomatic
> status of a Kaeirean 
> consulate.  The naval mission would be small, staffed
> only by a 
> commandin officer, clerks, a Ministry of Commerce
> official, a company of 
> Colonial Guard, and handful of engineers from the
> Kaeirean Fleet Arsenal 
> in Kahshaartown.  Its main duties would be the
> monitoring of Kaeirean 
> commerce travelling through the Straits, the passing
> on of information 
> between Kaeirean merchants, the detention of persons
> who have committed 
> crimes aboard a sea-going Kaeirean vessel until they
> can be transferred 
> back to Port Kaeir.  The mission would also be
> autonomous within its own 
> territory, though residents of the mission who commit
> crimes outside of 
> the mission would be of course, answerable to Sedonian
> law.

How big is a Colonial Guard company? As far as temporary detention of
criminals goes, the Sedonians *would* be willing to make cell space
available in the Prison for temporary detainees.

> - 10 scholarships to the University of Thalsedon, and
> 10 military 
> scholarships to the (not sure of the name here) Legion
> Officer's 
> college.  These scholarships would be renewed
> individually as individual 
> scholars completed their studies and returned home.

The University scholarships would be tuition-only; students (or Kaeir)
would have to pay room & board, and materials costs.

The Imperial Military Academy scholarships would cover tuition and room
& board, but students are required to pay for their own dress uniforms
(poor students get theirs in "one-size-fits-nobody" from the Academy
Quartermaster and make any needed alterations themselves; rich students
get theirs professionally tailored).


> - Sedonian sanction for the preaching of the Millat in
> eastern Sedonia 
> (Tirmar/Old Timar).

This will be granted quietly & without fuss.

Andrew

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Iso88591Qibrahim
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Mon

Sep 12
2005

14:06Z

[Cel] absence from game for 1459

Andrew Janssen wrote:

>Now that I seem to have solved my e-mail issues with
a workaround, I can 
>send this:
>
>Comments below, interspersed.
>
>  
>
>>4.  Sedonian-Kaeirean agreement on Rimrivertown
trade
>>access
>>
>>Kaeir will agree to the Sedonian request, with the
>>consent of the 
>>Panchayyah Grand Chief Dheskerallai of course,
>>granting 8 2-year passes 
>>(as per the initial Sedonian request).
>>
>>Sedonia may appoint a Trade Commissioner in lieu of
a
>>diplomatic 
>>representative in Rimrivertown.  Assumably he would
>>not be part of the 
>>intelligence service ; )
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Naturally not. ;)
>
>  
>
>>Popo, any comments? 
>>
>>Kaeirean conditions are:
>>
>>- a permanent naval mission in Tolmersa, sufficient
>>for the repair and 
>>resupplying of Kaeirean ships, with the diplomatic
>>status of a Kaeirean 
>>consulate.  The naval mission would be small,
staffed
>>only by a 
>>commandin officer, clerks, a Ministry of Commerce
>>official, a company of 
>>Colonial Guard, and handful of engineers from the
>>Kaeirean Fleet Arsenal 
>>in Kahshaartown.  Its main duties would be the
>>monitoring of Kaeirean 
>>commerce travelling through the Straits, the passing
>>on of information 
>>between Kaeirean merchants, the detention of persons
>>who have committed 
>>crimes aboard a sea-going Kaeirean vessel until they
>>can be transferred 
>>back to Port Kaeir.  The mission would also be
>>autonomous within its own 
>>territory, though residents of the mission who
commit
>>crimes outside of 
>>the mission would be of course, answerable to
Sedonian
>>law.
>>    
>>
>
>How big is a Colonial Guard company? As far as
temporary detention of
>criminals goes, the Sedonians *would* be willing to
make cell space
>available in the Prison for temporary detainees.
>  
>
25 is the standard size for any Kaeirean military
company, including the 
Colonial Guard.  Probably though, it would rarely be
at a full 25, as 
individual Colonial Guardsmen might be drafted into
the Fleet Marines 
whenever a Convoy lacking marine numbers passed by.

Kaeir would prefer a district/area in Tolmersa set
aside for or 
allocated to the Kaeirean mission.  That way the more
important Sedonian 
and Kaeirean affairs are kept separate when needed.

A large number of detainees are not expected, but one
role of the naval 
mission that is envisaged is the holding of the odd
figure detained for 
various reasons under Kaeirean sea-law.  In such
cases, it would 
probably be politically unacceptable back in the
streets of Port Kaeir 
for such figures to be held under Sedonian arms (no
offence though at 
the offer).

Perhaps an understanding can be reached that if a
situation arose where 
jail space in the Kaeirean naval mission could not
hold the detainees, 
space could be made temporarily in the Sedonian Prison
(though such a 
large figure would be largely unimaginable).

>  
>
>>- 10 scholarships to the University of Thalsedon,
and
>>10 military 
>>scholarships to the (not sure of the name here)
Legion
>>Officer's 
>>college.  These scholarships would be renewed
>>individually as individual 
>>scholars completed their studies and returned home.
>>    
>>
>
>The University scholarships would be tuition-only;
students (or Kaeir)
>would have to pay room & board, and materials costs.
>
>The Imperial Military Academy scholarships would
cover tuition and room
>& board, but students are required to pay for their
own dress uniforms
>(poor students get theirs in "one-size-fits-nobody"
from the Academy
>Quartermaster and make any needed alterations
themselves; rich students
>get theirs professionally tailored).
>  
>
Such costs would be covered by the Kaeirean Senate (or
more 
specifically, the University of New Tirmaeir and the
Office of the 
Commander of the Guard).

>
>  
>
>>- Sedonian sanction for the preaching of the Millat
in
>>eastern Sedonia 
>>(Tirmar/Old Timar).
>>    
>>
>
>This will be granted quietly & without fuss.
>  
>
Say no more, say no more. (wink wink nudge nudge)

If the points above regarding  Kaeirean Naval Mission
at Tolmersa is 
acceptable, then Kaeir would have no objection to the
overall agreement.

Ibrahim


	
	
		
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