On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Joseph R. Dietrich wrote: > So instead, I'm beginning the process of coming up with a big list 'o > spells for Gramayre (how is that pronounced, anyway?). Carl has mentioned gra-muh-ree. It should be in your Websters. > Anyway, it's an idea. Criticism, comments, or any other input at any part > of this process would be greatly appreciated. Part of the point of the Gramarye's design is to avoid massive lists of generic effects... you don't have to give details on how to start a fire because starting a fire should be obvious within the rules. (Create Fire) The size, intensity, and exact nature is up to the caster and can vary from setting to setting and even character to character. That said, a GM may find the Gramarye to be a useful meta-system to create spells which are then fixed in the game world. Like using a D&D spell list, where the spell works the same all the time, except you had a design system to help guide the creatio0n of the spells. I'm of mixed feelings about large spell lists of generic effects, because my experience has shown that many players are reluctant to think outside the box... the list being the box. When presented with a list of options and a way to create their own options, many players restrict themselves to the list and are unable to come up with their own creations. (Witness the number of Champions characters whose disadvantages are taken from the *sample* disads in the rulebook.) While every fantasy campaign is likely to have a "fireball" spell, there's no reason for everyone's fireball to look the same. By leaving the system open, it encourages players to create their own personalized spells, even if they aren't creating spells on the fly in the middle of combat. What I'm personally interested in seeing is a selection of interesting and even unique spells written in Gramarye terms. One important thing this does is give more examples for inexperienced players. On another point, you said that after you compiled lists of effects, you'd start assigning them to colleges... some effects may be accomplished by more than one college, so be careful about pigeon-holing an effect into a particular college. -- Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net) Hey, you work at McDonalds, you can afford it!