Hello. Sorry for the crosspost. has anyone modified the existing classes? Specifically the Paladin. I want to change the Paladin into more of a straight knight, with optional alignments. So you could have a LE, CE, CG, LN, N, NE, NG knight. How would this affect the character abilities? Obvious is protection from evil, but how would it translate for a neutral character? What about the other abilities? www.dlcwest.com/~cybersavant CyberSavant www.geocities.com/thorazbrynaziir a.k.a. Thoraz Brynaziir a.k.a. Thodan cybersavantsmatrix.homestead.com/BetaComplex.html a.k.a. Comp-U-TOR cybersavant.tripod.com/cybersavantsmatrix/ cybersavant.tripod.com/superspbem/ Tell me and i may forget Show me and i may remember Involve me and i will understand. Chinese proverb ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
What edition are you working with? ----- Original Message ----- From: cybersavant Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:06 PM To: gamers@phoenyx.net Subject: GM: d20 classes - crosspost Hello. Sorry for the crosspost. has anyone modified the existing classes? Specifically the Paladin. I want to change the Paladin into more of a straight knight, with optional alignments. So you could have a LE, CE, CG, LN, N, NE, NG knight. How would this affect the character abilities? Obvious is protection from evil, but how would it translate for a neutral character? What about the other abilities? www.dlcwest.com/~cybersavant CyberSavant www.geocities.com/thorazbrynaziir a.k.a. Thoraz Brynaziir a.k.a. Thodan cybersavantsmatrix.homestead.com/BetaComplex.html a.k.a. Comp-U-TOR cybersavant.tripod.com/cybersavantsmatrix/ cybersavant.tripod.com/superspbem/ Tell me and i may forget Show me and i may remember Involve me and i will understand. Chinese proverb ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
It would seem that since he specified d20, he's working with 3rd edition. Neither of the previous editions were called d20 (that I know of. I could be wrong). -Ed *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/24/01 at 8:47 AM JEREMY PICKWALL wrote: >What edition are you working with? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: cybersavant >Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:06 PM >To: gamers@phoenyx.net >Subject: GM: d20 classes - crosspost > >Hello. Sorry for the crosspost. has anyone modified the existing >classes? Specifically the Paladin. I want to change the Paladin into >more of a straight knight, with optional alignments. So you could have >a LE, CE, CG, LN, N, NE, NG knight. How would this affect the >character abilities? Obvious is protection from evil, but how would it >translate for a neutral character? What about the other abilities? > **************************** Edward Wedig Graphic Designer - Web Designer - Gamemaster - Nice Guy www.edtheartist.com **************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
Aha, excellent reasoning, I overlooked that--though all of the editions were more or less d20 based. I think if the paladin is to be modified for a campaign into a more traditional knight one has took decide what this "Knight" has above the Fighter (and all his feats) concentrated upon the Knight archetype. The Standard Paladin is of course the holy warrior in a sense that the tradional Fighter cannot be. In moving towards a straight knight, does the paladin lose his/her divine backing? Or is he/she still a Champion of some Divinity. It certainly makes sense that dieties of alignments other than L. Good would have their champions similiar to the Paladin with altered abilities. The most difficult alignment with which to work with in this scheme is certainly neutrality. What abilities does a champion of balance recieve and still maintain balance--you can either give the abilities of good and evil (or law and chaos) or give neither since giving only one ignores the neutrality. Giving both makes the Champion of neutrality equal to a champion of either extreme while giving neither may weakened the Champion's ability to be a Champion. One ability that might be overlooked in the case of neutraility is that they are immune to Smite Evil (Good, Law, Chaos, etc.) and the Circles of Protection. If Balance is supposed to be a dominant force in the campaign, they could be given the ability to negate such protections. In the end, what you do depends entirely on the campaign world, and kind of place you envision it to be. ----- Original Message ----- From: doc_brown@ameritech.net Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:56 PM To: gamers@phoenyx.net Subject: Re: GM: d20 classes - crosspost It would seem that since he specified d20, he's working with 3rd edition. Neither of the previous editions were called d20 (that I know of. I could be wrong). -Ed *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/24/01 at 8:47 AM JEREMY PICKWALL wrote: >What edition are you working with? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: cybersavant >Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 11:06 PM >To: gamers@phoenyx.net >Subject: GM: d20 classes - crosspost > >Hello. Sorry for the crosspost. has anyone modified the existing >classes? Specifically the Paladin. I want to change the Paladin into >more of a straight knight, with optional alignments. So you could have >a LE, CE, CG, LN, N, NE, NG knight. How would this affect the >character abilities? Obvious is protection from evil, but how would it >translate for a neutral character? What about the other abilities? > **************************** Edward Wedig Graphic Designer - Web Designer - Gamemaster - Nice Guy www.edtheartist.com **************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
