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On Thursday, October 24, 2002, 6:03:50 AM, a messenger from beyond appeared before me, and handed me this note. Listen to what it said: >Anybody use it? Anybody wish they could use it, but can't get a code? I use it, and I've plenty of codes to spare (I get ten a month :P), so... if anyone's in the latter category, feel free to ask me nicely... :) >The sourcecode is public, and Perl. I'm thinking of setting it up on the >Phoenyx, for gamers, since some people seem inclined to use the Wiki for it. Well, I know Brad and Mark both would be happy if you did ;) I know he (Brad) wants others to use the code, which is why he made it OpenSource. The more people setting up the sites, and the more people using those sites, the better chances are for finding bugs and improving upon the source, so... yeah... :) And if you want to make the text specific to Phoenyx, and have that translated like the 'real' LJ, well, I guess I could work on that as well... I'm already in charge of lj_dansk; The team of translators translating LJ :) Oh, and I guess I haven't written here... much... if ever... but I've been lurking about... :P -- Sincerely, Pope Freso Fenderson e shenriallian Caraidh Beith http://freso.livejournal.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On Thursday 24 October 2002 00:03, Karen Cravens wrote:
> Anybody use it?
As in run it or 'blog to it? Me and my daughter both 'blog. She's quite
prolific while I just rant once in a while. I got mine so I could reply to
her which is why I don't do it all that much.
It's ok but I don't have anything to compare it to.
> Anybody wish they could use it, but can't get a code?
>
> The sourcecode is public, and Perl. I'm thinking of setting it up on the
> Phoenyx, for gamers, since some people seem inclined to use the Wiki for
> it.
>
You might pop over to the O'Reilly pages (http://www.oreilly.com). They just
came out with a 'blog book. I always prefer O'Reilly and I don't buy Dummies
books (my wife bought "A+ For Dummies" which I thought was hilarious).
Carl
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I use it, and if I ever run a regular game, it would be nice to have one for game info. -Tim -- ______________________________________________ Tim Seiger Sun Microsystems tim.seiger@sun.com 781 442 3551 ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
At 09:41 AM 10/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I use it, and if I ever run a regular game, it would be nice to have >one for game info. I use Moveable Type for my blog publishing, on my own site. I've got a good number of blogs set up by now, and one of them *is* for game information (Mask of the Innocent -- http://www.hall-of-mirrors.com/mask). Because of the really nice way it lets me organize information, allow other authors, etc., its great for publishing game info. I plan on setting up another one for my PBEM eventually too. The hard part is now just keeping them all up to date. *smiles* D. ====================================================== Deb Atwood / d-singer@hall-of-mirrors.com homepage & blog: http://www.hall-of-mirrors.com A Twisted Weave: http://www.hall-of-mirrors.com/atw AIM/YIM/MIM: tryslora ICQ: 26379740 ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 24 Oct 2002 at 9:50, Deb Atwood wrote: > I use Moveable Type for my blog publishing, on my own site. I've got a Yabbut Moveable Type uses Java, which is not on the Phoenyx' approved list yet. I'm *pretty* sure LiveJournal doesn't, but I haven't gotten that far yet. ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
> > I use Moveable Type for my blog publishing, on my own site. > I've got a > > Yabbut Moveable Type uses Java, which is not on the Phoenyx' > approved list yet. > Hmmm... as far as I know, Moveable Type does *not* use Java. It runs fine on my own site, using just Perl and MySQL. It might be that one of the optional modules (the one for generating thumbnails of images) uses Java; I'm not using that one though. Herman ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 27 Oct 2002 at 22:33, Herman Duyker wrote: > Hmmm... as far as I know, Moveable Type does *not* use Java. It > runs fine on my own site, using just Perl and MySQL. It might be > that one of the optional modules (the one for generating thumbnails > of images) uses Java; I'm not using that one though. When I say Java, I really mean Java*... It may be that MT uses Javascript, I don't remember specifically. It's all eeeeevil, for reasons specified elsewhere. I'm just going by their prerequisites page, I don't know exactly where it's used. I assume when they say it's required that that means it's vital; YaBB "uses" Javascript but works fine (so far) when you gut the scripts, you just lose things like all the auto-HTML crap that I'm removing anyway. MT *may* be the same way, but I don't have time to dink with it to find out when a Java*-less alternative presents itself (such is not, sadly, the case with bulletin board software, at least not until I get done with it). ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
*squealing with glee* *claps hands*
They move! They move!! The little wheels actually turn!!!
Unfortunately, they also come apart quite easily. *sighs* I had to give
it back to Mike to put back together because I am apparently inept. *sighs
again*
Oh, these are adorable.
D.
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Deb Atwood wrote: DA>Unfortunately, they also come apart quite easily. *sighs* I had to give DA>it back to Mike to put back together because I am apparently inept. *sighs DA>again* Yeah, my samurai will let his hand be ripped off rather than give up his katana... -- Karen J. Cravens silver@phoenyx.net ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Karen J. Cravens wrote:
> Yeah, my samurai will let his hand be ripped off rather than give up his
> katana...
On the other hand... one sharp rap and all of his arrows go flying off his
back.
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> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Deb Atwood wrote: > > DA>Unfortunately, they also come apart quite easily. *sighs* I had to > DA>give it back to Mike to put back together because I am apparently > DA>inept. *sighs again* > > Yeah, my samurai will let his hand be ripped off rather than give up > his katana... So he's realistic in that respect. . . . -- Michael Feldhusen mike_f@io.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 23 Oct 2002, at 23:03, Karen Cravens wrote: > The sourcecode is public, and Perl. I'm thinking of setting > it up on the Phoenyx, for gamers, since some people seem > inclined to use the Wiki for it. I think it's a wonderful idea. Is there going to be guidelines for maintaining it as a "gaming-based" theme? ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 25 Oct 2002 at 8:43, Meera Barry wrote: > I think it's a wonderful idea. Is there going to be > guidelines for maintaining it as a "gaming-based" theme? Yep. I have *no* idea what the guidelines are going to be, though. ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
Karen Cravens wrote: >Anybody use it? Anybody wish they could use it, but can't get a code? > >The sourcecode is public, and Perl. I'm thinking of setting it up on the >Phoenyx, for gamers, since some people seem inclined to use the Wiki for it. Ironic that you announce this the day before Blogger.com got hacked. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/weblog ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 25 Oct 2002 at 13:43, Tim Hall wrote: > Ironic that you announce this the day before Blogger.com got hacked. I have an alibi. ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 25 Oct 2002 at 7:58pm, Karen Cravens wrote:
>On 24 Oct 2002 at 9:50, Deb Atwood wrote:
>>I use Moveable Type for my blog publishing, on my own site. I've got a
>
>Yabbut Moveable Type uses Java, which is not on the Phoenyx' approved list
yet.
>I'm *pretty* sure LiveJournal doesn't, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
Well, don't be pretty sure, be completely sure! :P I can say that all LJ
uses is Perl and MySQL... and BML... which is really a Perl
module/script/thingy (I'm not familiar with the Perl jargon >_>)... it
should run on Apache and M$ IIS both, or at least that's the last thing I
heard... :)
I'm more than pretty sure it doesn't use anything else, but I'm
_completely_ sure that it does not use Java, and even JavaScript is kept at
an absolute minimum. S2 (the new style system), otoh, will use Java, but
I'm fairly certain that the final S2 won't be released in this year, and I
doubt it'll be in even the first half of next... :P
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On 26 Oct 2002 at 9:30, freso@mail.dbmail.dk wrote: > I'm more than pretty sure it doesn't use anything else, but I'm > _completely_ sure that it does not use Java, and even JavaScript is kept at > an absolute minimum. S2 (the new style system), otoh, will use Java, but > I'm fairly certain that the final S2 won't be released in this year, and I > doubt it'll be in even the first half of next... :P Hmm. It'll depend on how integral the Java (including -script) is, I guess. The Phoenyx is as user-friendly as possible, which includes accessibility for Lynx and handicapped users. Java* is, therefore, out. Yeah, I'm sometimes a Luddite. (If I wasn't, we'd all be posting this via a web- only forum.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
Karen Cravens wrote: > The Phoenyx is as user-friendly as possible, which includes accessibility for > Lynx and handicapped users. Java* is, therefore, out. I think you have to distinguish server-side and client-side. Java Servlets and JSPs can be used to generate standard HTML; see http://www.stevebarr.com/setpiece.jsp for a simple example. Client-side tech such as Javascript and Java Applets can make content as unaccessibile as Flash. Even then, there is an accessibility API for Java: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/access/ (Of course that won't help if the browser doesn't load the applet.) > Yeah, I'm sometimes a Luddite. (If I wasn't, we'd all be posting this via a web- > only forum.) I want it as a web service. 8-P Steve -- http://www.stevebarr.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On 28 Oct 2002 at 19:18, Steve Barr wrote: > I think you have to distinguish server-side and client-side. Actually, no, I don't: I don't want to mess with anything but Perl on the server side, so Java itself is out. I don't want to require any funky clients at *all*, so Javascript is out. > I want it as a web service. 8-P I'm doing it. Not web-*only*, though. ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
Karen Cravens wrote: >Actually, no, I don't: I don't want to mess with anything but Perl on the server >side, so Java itself is out. I don't want to require any funky clients at *all*, so >Javascript is out. BTW, I've put a question on the MT support forums to clarify exactly what MT uses JS *for*, and whether any of these are essential features. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/weblog ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
> BTW, I've put a question on the MT support forums to > clarify exactly what MT uses JS *for*, and whether > any of these are essential > features. FYI, Movable Type is all Perl with Berkeley or MySQL as a db backend. It uses javascript for a variety of client-side tasks in the interface, including form validation, dynamic setting of CSS styles so that the interface looks nice in various browsers, opening and closing of seperate browser windows to carry out tasks (like rebuilding blog pages) and so on. It won't work correctly in browsers with no javascript support or with javascript turned off. AFAIK it is not open source, although it is free for personal and non-profit use (it is donationware). Ciao, Joseph R. Dietrich yikes@evansville.net ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 05:58:47PM -0500, Karen Cravens wrote:
> Yeah, I'm sometimes a Luddite. (If I wasn't, we'd all be posting this via
> a web- only forum.)
Ugh. That's not Luddism. That's understanding what technology is good for
what.
-Rob
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On 29 Oct 2002 at 11:14, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote: > Ugh. That's not Luddism. That's understanding what technology is good for > what. Yeah, but there's also "understanding what the majority of people use these days, even when it isn't always the best way to do it." Then again, for your average Outlook user, putting up with the quirks of a web forum is probably easier than trying to route list mail into a folder. (Any above-average Outlook users are welcome to put instructions into the Wiki, BTW.) Ultimately, I want the Phoenyx to have both. I'm in the process of hacking YaBB into something that uses the Phoenyx SQL backend. Then I just have to route messages posted to the mailing list through YaBB's posting thingy, and vice versa, and people who post to the web don't even have to know the mailing list exists, and vice again versa. It sounds so easy... ---------------------------------------------------------------- GAMERS Home Page: http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/
