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Okay, the feeds have been (more or less) finalized.

http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/index.rss
http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/threads.rss

The former is the whole magilla, top-level posts and replies alike.  The 
latter is just top-level posts (and the occasional Darth Stomper reply, 
since for some reason the software isn't recognizing those as replies. 
Working on that).

Replying from the web is not currently enabled, but should be up in a week 
or two.

The threads.rss feed is also set to autodiscover from the Phoenyx' main 
page, so GAMERS is now the feed officially representing the Phoenyx. 
Hence the subject line.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karen J. Cravens" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: GM: Say cheese


> Okay, the feeds have been (more or less) finalized.
>
> http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/index.rss
> http://www.phoenyx.net/gamers/threads.rss
>
> The former is the whole magilla, top-level posts and replies alike.  The
> latter is just top-level posts (and the occasional Darth Stomper reply,
> since for some reason the software isn't recognizing those as replies.
> Working on that).
>

Note to self:  Status as Freelance Agent of Chaos impacting mundane world. 
Must work harder to channel this into more rewarding fields, such as the 
conquest of Jessica Alba.

[Seriously, that _is_ odd.  I wonder why that would be happening--I'm not 
doing anything exotic, unless this is one of those communities that 
considers Outlook Express exotic. {Yes, I'm THAT damn lazy.}]

        --T.M. Neeck (aka Darth Stomper) 

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, T. M. Neeck wrote:

> [Seriously, that _is_ odd.  I wonder why that would be happening--I'm not 
> doing anything exotic, unless this is one of those communities that 
> considers Outlook Express exotic. {Yes, I'm THAT damn lazy.}]

Outlook Express is (in)famous for not following standards... It is 
probably because of a faulty "References:" or something like that this 
time.

As a side note, our SpamAssassin marks your mails as potential spam, 
giving it a spam score of 6.913. It fails the following major tests:
 	FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,
 	MSGID_DOLLARS,
 	RATWARE_MS_HASH,
 	RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME

>         --T.M. Neeck (aka Darth Stomper)

/Ola
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ola Ågren" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: GM: Say cheese


> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, T. M. Neeck wrote:
>
>> [Seriously, that _is_ odd.  I wonder why that would be happening--I'm not
>> doing anything exotic, unless this is one of those communities that
>> considers Outlook Express exotic. {Yes, I'm THAT damn lazy.}]
>
> Outlook Express is (in)famous for not following standards... It is
> probably because of a faulty "References:" or something like that this
> time.
>
> As a side note, our SpamAssassin marks your mails as potential spam,
> giving it a spam score of 6.913. It fails the following major tests:
>  FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,

Ironic, that.  I chose "br4v4d0" with the specific intent to _fend_off_ 
spammers.  No wonder it works, they think I'm one of THEM...

>>         --T.M. Neeck (aka Darth Stomper)

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, T. M. Neeck wrote:

> From: "Ola Ågren" 
>
>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, T. M. Neeck wrote:
>>
>>> [Seriously, that _is_ odd.  I wonder why that would be happening--I'm not
>>> doing anything exotic, unless this is one of those communities that
>>> considers Outlook Express exotic. {Yes, I'm THAT damn lazy.}]
>>
>> Outlook Express is (in)famous for not following standards... It is
>> probably because of a faulty "References:" or something like that this
>> time.

It is not "References:" that is missing; your mail lacks the
"In-Reply-To:" header and this is the most probable cause here.

>> As a side note, our SpamAssassin marks your mails as potential spam,
>> giving it a spam score of 6.913. It fails the following major tests:
>>  FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,
>
> Ironic, that.  I chose "br4v4d0" with the specific intent to _fend_off_
> spammers.  No wonder it works, they think I'm one of THEM...

*smiles*

The last two failed tests appears since the gamers' list processor strips 
the original "X-Mailer" and "X-MimeOLE" headers which then triggers these 
rules.

/Ola
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Ola Ågren wrote:

Og>The last two failed tests appears since the gamers' list processor strips 
Og>the original "X-Mailer" and "X-MimeOLE" headers which then triggers these 
Og>rules.

GAMERS has the Sender always set to gamers@phoenyx.net so you can 
(hopefully) whitelist, since by its nature mailing list mail looks like a 
relay (because it is).

And IIRC the only weird thing I noticed on a cursory look was that le 
Stomper's Reference line is sequenced reverse from the usual method, but 
that's not agin' the (very, very loose) standard or anything.  Bug in my 
code, somewhere, but I haven't had time to chase it down just yet.

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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, T. M. Neeck wrote:

TMN>[Seriously, that _is_ odd.  I wonder why that would be happening--I'm not 
TMN>doing anything exotic, unless this is one of those communities that 
TMN>considers Outlook Express exotic. {Yes, I'm THAT damn lazy.}]

I found my bug.  You don't have an In-Reply-To line, and my References 
handling was buggy (but was being masked by the fact that all my test 
stuff had IRT.  Shame on my incomplete test suite).

It appears to be fixed, though I haven't written a critter to go back and 
fix all the old threads automatically.  I re-threaded the badwrongfun 
thread myself, though.

-- 
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I went ahead and put Stakeholders in public on the forum, on the theory 
that part of the *point* of the forum is community-building - melding the 
Phoenyx into a coherent whole instead of a collection of little 
roleplaying islands.  (So if you don't want to be assimilated, now is the 
time to jump ship for Yahoogroups...)

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On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 04:42:43PM +0000, Karen J.Cravens wrote:
> I went ahead and put Stakeholders in public on the forum, on the theory 
> that part of the *point* of the forum is community-building - melding the 
> Phoenyx into a coherent whole instead of a collection of little 
> roleplaying islands.  (So if you don't want to be assimilated, now is the 
> time to jump ship for Yahoogroups...)

Is PHXS for Phoenyx Stakeholders?

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On Wed, 23 May 2007, Chuk Goodin wrote:

CG>Is PHXS for Phoenyx Stakeholders?

Yeah.  It occurred to me that (1) Stakeholders had never had a subject 
tag, (2) GAMERS is a poor beta because it's getting no traffic, and (3) 
there are issues with the subject tag not getting stripped (before it's 
re-added) and I need some test data.

So ignore the duplicated (and triplicated, and so on) subject tags.  I 
might fix that in tomorrow's release, or not. It's another of those "it 
doesn't act like that in the test install!" bugs.

Also ignore the moderation approval I think I sent to this list (though it 
didn't show up in my mailbox, nor on the webforum, but I seem to see it in 
the database, so that's another issue).

Also ignore the fact that I routed stakeholders mail into the new mailbox, 
but forgot (until just now) to tell the new daemon it was handling that 
mailbox.

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Karen J. Cravens wrote:

> I went ahead and put Stakeholders in public on the forum, on the theory 
> that part of the *point* of the forum is community-building - melding 
> the Phoenyx into a coherent whole instead of a collection of little 
> roleplaying islands.  (So if you don't want to be assimilated, now is 
> the time to jump ship for Yahoogroups...)

And that has to be the corniest icon I have *ever* seen :)

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On Thu, 24 May 2007, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>And that has to be the corniest icon I have *ever* seen :)

Better?

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Karen J. Cravens wrote:

> TH>And that has to be the corniest icon I have *ever* seen :)
> 
> Better?

I guessed what the new icon was going to be before I even saw it :)

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On Mon, 28 May 2007, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>I guessed what the new icon was going to be before I even saw it :)

Fine, fine... better NOW?

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Karen J. Cravens wrote:

> TH>I guessed what the new icon was going to be before I even saw it :)
> 
> Fine, fine... better NOW?

I was going to say something along the lines of 'Well, I suppose you're 
really, really into visual puns', but I see you've changed it *again*.  :)

At this point I leave it to other people to voice their opinions...

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On Mon, 28 May 2007, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>I was going to say something along the lines of 'Well, I suppose you're
TH>really, really into visual puns', but I see you've changed it *again*.  :)

Less punny, more literal, yeah.

Mostly I had to have an excuse to test the subject-tag thingy, which 
appears to be working now, so whew.

I need to poke at the profile-handling tools a little bit, and then I'll 
have a new release (should be today, but I have to do the obligatory 
Memorial Day stuff, and it'll depend on how soon I can politely bail on my 
mom/sister). This one is the "now you can log in and fix your profile 
info" release. Next week's should be the "now that you can log in, here's 
some non-archival ways to read" release.

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> a new release (should be today, but I have to do the obligatory Memorial Day stuff

Okay, the release wasn't Monday. It might be today, though. We showed up at my sister's ready for a late lunch, and discovered they were planning on dinner. So we didn't get home until late, and then yesterday I had to go to the Day Job and somehow ended up at my mom's until late *again*. Things are going well, though.

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On Wed, 30 May 2007, Cravens wrote:

C>Things are going well, though.

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> TH>I guessed what the new icon was going to be before I even saw it :)
>
> Fine, fine... better NOW?

I was waiting for the Buffy icon.

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On Mon, 28 May 2007, Michael Feldhusen wrote:

MF>I was waiting for the Buffy icon.

Don't think I didn't look, but I didn't find one specific/clear enough.