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KevinTisserand
Audrey & Kevin Tisserand

Thu

Apr 22
1999

06:01Z

Missing message ?

> A message seems to have gone into the ether. Specifically, message
> number 426 on the Westwind list. It showed up on my status report, but I
> never received it and it didn't show up on the Mhonarc archive either.
>
> here's the status message for it :
>
> 0 message 426 from scratchingpost@cnnet.com for westwind (WW: Oasis turn
> 146 (Tak))
>
> That player's last-post on the status report was also updated.
>
> Any ideas ?

Same kind of thing happened to me.  The status message for mine is:

0 message 469 from howcho@uniserve.com for storm ([SylvrStorm] The Other
Tower)

I'm hoping this is just another temporary glitch, but I'm wondering if I
should ask my player to repost, and if so, when it will be 'safe' to do so.

Thanks,
Kevin.
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Fri

Apr 23
1999

12:27Z

Missing message ?

On 21 Apr 99, at 14:56, Jeff Johnson wrote:

> A message seems to have gone into the ether. Specifically, message
> number 426 on the Westwind list. It showed up on my status report, but I
> never received it and it didn't show up on the Mhonarc archive either.

Something is happening at the smtp server handoff point.  I'm not 
sure yet what it is, but I've got some debugging code in place so 
we'll see what turns up.

For what it's worth, all messages are logged, and they're going into 
the digests just fine, so I can re-create any "missing" messages if 
need be. Simpler in most cases for the original poster to try again, 
though, since it'll require some manual groveling to figure out which 
message(s) to resend.

If you watch the X-headers (if your mail reader doesn't give you the 
option to look at these, change mail readers promptly), you should 
be able to see X-Message-Sequence.  This is specific to each list, 
and you should never see breaks in the message-sequence.


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JanoDonnachaidh
Jano Donnachaidh

Tue

Apr 27
1999

13:34Z

Missing message ?

I sent out 5 test messages to the Holmes list on Sunday, none have 
come through either to me at jano@mindspring.com or apparently to my 
players.  I asked them to respond, and have had no response from any 
of them.  This was prompted from the fact that they were mentioning 
that they were only getting one message a week when mor were being 
sent.  Was this part of the transition and is it still in effect?

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JanoDonnachaidh
Jano Donnachaidh

Tue

Apr 27
1999

16:08Z

Missing message ?

Well, I need to reset a few things, maybe that'll help.  I'm switching 
everything over to MindSpring to get rid of this Hotmail stuff.  Then 
a real server can be at work.

Jano

>On 27 Apr 1999, Jano Donnachaidh wrote:
>> I sent out 5 test messages to the Holmes list on Sunday, none have 
>> come through either to me at jano@mindspring.com or apparently to 
my 
>> players.  I asked them to respond, and have had no response from 
any 
>> of them.  This was prompted from the fact that they were mentioning 
>> that they were only getting one message a week when mor were being 
>> sent.  Was this part of the transition and is it still in effect?
>
>No.  The Holmes list got shut down by the "deadman switch" when one 
of its
>users hit 100+ bounces.... it assumed that both the listowner and I 
had
>abandoned the list.  Actually, it was just the fact that the volume 
was so
>low that I didn't notice that it was bouncing for so long, so it was
>really just the former.
>
>I can't really explain why you aren't getting the "No such user" 
response
>that holmes now generates, but I am guessing your server is 
discarding
>them the same way it's been discarding the listowner notifications 
for
>umpteen months now.  Not much I can do about that at this end.
>
>Presumeably the one or two messages that did get through were either 
old
>ones, or ones where the sender cc'd everyone and the ones they were
>getting didn't pass through the Phoenyx at all.


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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

Apr 27
1999

14:49Z

Missing message ?

On 27 Apr 1999, Jano Donnachaidh wrote:
> I sent out 5 test messages to the Holmes list on Sunday, none have 
> come through either to me at jano@mindspring.com or apparently to my 
> players.  I asked them to respond, and have had no response from any 
> of them.  This was prompted from the fact that they were mentioning 
> that they were only getting one message a week when mor were being 
> sent.  Was this part of the transition and is it still in effect?

No.  The Holmes list got shut down by the "deadman switch" when one of its
users hit 100+ bounces.... it assumed that both the listowner and I had
abandoned the list.  Actually, it was just the fact that the volume was so
low that I didn't notice that it was bouncing for so long, so it was
really just the former.

I can't really explain why you aren't getting the "No such user" response
that holmes now generates, but I am guessing your server is discarding
them the same way it's been discarding the listowner notifications for
umpteen months now.  Not much I can do about that at this end.

Presumeably the one or two messages that did get through were either old
ones, or ones where the sender cc'd everyone and the ones they were
getting didn't pass through the Phoenyx at all.


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