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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Jun 17
1999

02:31Z

Subscribe failures

In article <000601beb63d$c2772100$ad718e8b@jsjohnso>,
"Jeff Johnson"  wrote:
>Since my subscriber list got corrupted and restored, I've had a couple
>subscribe failures on the westwind list for no obvious reason (they're
>not from remailer accounts; the domains were cygnus.uwa.edu.au and
>singnet.com.sg). I haven't heard back from the people yet, so can't
>provide details, but is there any chance some other info was corrupted
>as well ?

I'm still trying to figure this one out.  I'm suspecting it's not
letting anyone subscribe, across the board, which is a Bad Thing.
It also means, since I haven't got VB installed here anymore
(where *is* that CD?) that I'll have to take it to work to
recompile.

In the meantime, I think I'll just discombobulate ALLOWREMAIL.
It should be a moot point under the new software anyway.

>And as a trivia note, I got a message back from the mailserver at
>lgscc.leics.sch.uk saying that my last Oasis turn "contains banned or
>potentially offensive text." Someone's got an overzealous censor, I
>think. The only word I can see in there that's remotely 'potentially
>offensive' is 'bitch'.

Well, that's probably it then...


--  Karen Cravens      | Phoenyx PBeM RPG Listserver: majordomo@phoenyx.net
    silver@phoenyx.net | http://www.phoenyx.net/
                     Tell the truth and run.
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Mon

Jun 21
1999

19:31Z

Subscribe failures

On 21 Jun 1999, Audrey  & Kevin Tisserand wrote:

> 'discombobulate' - that must be the technical term, right?  Does this
> explain why my list was set to allowremail="true"?

Yep.  I used the Magic Universal Password and did that to everyone.

> More importantly, does this mean that remailers and things like hotmail are
> no longer a problem, or does the new software simply stop those subscribers
> in another way?  I just want to know because I've got some text about it on
> my web site that I should change if remailers are no longer a problem.

They're still sort of a problem, in that they're likely to bounce for no
good reason frequently.  However, the new software will generally snag the
bounces and automatically unsub people, so it's much less of a big deal.

What will happen (has happened, in fact) is that the software will notice
the bounce, figure out who it is, and push them to "Bouncing" status.
That night, a message will go out notifying them that they've been
suspended, and telling them how to fix it.  If they're still suspended a
week later, they'll get another message.  A month later, another message.
If they're still bouncing after a month, chances are it's a permanent
error.

Oh, and it will put a note in the status report as to who is on Bouncing
status.

I figure I'll still put something in the welcome file remarking that
remailers are notoriously unreliable, and that if they don't get listmail
or they get randomly unsubscribed, the problem is *not* at the Phoenyx
end.  But in the meantime, it means an end to the majority of the
listowner traffic in bounce messages, which has always been our major
gripe about it.

--
Karen J. Cravens  silver@phoenyx.net
The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/



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