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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Mon

Sep 6
1999

03:08Z

Chat> Re: Fwd: Re: Erdani: So many things to do (fwd)

Okay, this (see the attachment below) is probably something for the group
at large to consider.

My take on this would be that that particular group includes a number of
fairly self-centered people - despite having their noses rubbed in the
fact that neither the Phoenyx nor the gamemaster are doing this for
anything resembling profit, they persist in whining about how the plot
doesn't move the way they want it to, or the list doesn't function the way
they want it to.  So I'd cut 'em loose.  I as much as said so to "Elim"
(who responded to my suggestion that someone use the tech support address
if they're having problems, rather than just mention to the list that
they're having unspecified problems, with "Do you realize that some people
are just too sick of you to do that?"), suggesting that if he's sick of
me, he can stop hanging around in my house, as it were.

But perhaps I'm excessively harsh, and mayhap some of the people who've
followed this thread (Jason posted a bit of it here, so I know he's
following it) can offer something more constructive.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 21:57:32 -0400
From: Ardeth Hecat 
To: Karen J. Cravens 
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Erdani:  So many things to do (fwd)



"Karen J. Cravens" wrote:

> I'm beginning to think you'd be better off either on *, or without
> certain of your players.

Karen, quite truthfully I am baffled as to how to handle them.  It is only
the Erdani list that is having these ongoing problems with players.  I don't
know whether as a group they are just egging each other on.  But I
disapprove very much of the tone that they are taking, both with yourself
and the Phoenyx, as well as with me.  I've have a couple of rather nasty,
personal attacks from them.  I've never had a group of players like that in
all the time I've been involved in PBeM.  A couple of times I've been ready
to throw my hands up and close down the Seventh Order.  But, its been a
good, long running game and the Kobrys and Ravek (barring a few problems
just when the lists moved) are great groups and the players are really good
to work with.   So, I am hesitant to kill it for the sake of a few problem
players.

Have you ever seen this sort of thing before?  Any words of wisdom?

Lynn





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     The Seventh Order -  a Cardassian RPG
             http://www.7thorder.org

"It's not safe out here!  It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate
desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
  - Q, Star Trek, The Next Generation




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LynnParr
Gul Ardeth Hecat

Mon

Sep 6
1999

04:01Z

Chat> Re: Fwd: Re: Erdani: So many things to do (fwd)

Phoenyx Admin wrote:

>  So I'd cut 'em loose.

That is what I am seriously considering.  Shutting down everyone on the Erdani
topic, and telling them that if people want to play rather than complain, let me
know and I will assign them to one of the other groups.  There are a few people
that I would not consider moving to another group.

However, as I mentioned to Karen, if anyone has any comments I'd love to hear
them.  I've never run across a group like this.

Lynn


--
     The Seventh Order -  a Cardassian RPG
             http://www.7thorder.org

"It's not safe out here!  It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate
desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
  - Q, Star Trek, The Next Generation


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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Mon

Sep 6
1999

04:34Z

Chat> Re: Fwd: Re: Erdani: So many things to do (fwd)

On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, the Erdani GM wrote:

> and the Phoenyx, as well as with me.  I've have a couple of rather nasty,
> personal attacks from them.  I've never had a group of players like that in

They're words about and toward the Phoenyx and Karen aside, no GM should
have to deal with ungrateful, antagonistic players.  I say cut 'em loose.

-- 
Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)

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