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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Oct 7
1999

23:04Z

Req> New Game, DragonLance (fwd)

Writing level is somewhat immature.  Only one spelling mistake that I
noticed, but the grammar is weak and they're somewhat incoherent.  
"X-Calibre NEVER sims... they sim every other week."  Part I'm trying to
figure out is what they're doing when they're not simming... does this
person consider "simming" and "roleplaying" to be two different things?  
Or is one of them the mechanical hack-n-slash game part game and the other
is playing the role?  Considering that "sim" grew out of the Star Trek
crowd, where folks who sim haven't even heard of roleplaying games
sometimes, I'd say that by "sim" he means the actual roleplaying part, vs
the game part.

The premise is, "...purge the land of evil, making it a better place
for everyone" even though "everybody's happy".  Very weak.  (And what
about evil people... aren't they "everybody" too? :) 

Final strike... "My only experience is with a group that never sims
(roleplays?)". I would recommend that the person join a "real" PBeM RPG
before trying to start one... they want everyone to have the opportunity
to express their creativity, but fail to notice that *he* isn't the only
person capable of providing this outlet.

(Of course, since Karen just recently nominated me to write the rejection
letters, I'm going to be the one telling them this kind of thing.) 

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Phoenyx Admin wrote:

> -- 
> Karen J. Cravens  silver@phoenyx.net
> The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:46:55 MDT
> From: Fais14 --- 
> To: approval@phoenyx.net
> Subject: New Game, DragonLance
> 
> Hi, I would like to make a new sim group.
> The email adress to my group is, DragonLanceRPG@hotmail.com.
> This is the Dragon Lance PBEM game. It takes place, after the War of the 
> lance.
> It is after the War of the Lance, and the Queen of Darkness is out of power. 
> Everybody is happy. But, there are still some Dragon Highlords who have 
> significant power.  Our group, venture out to the far corners of Krynn, to 
> fight the evil powers, and purge the land of evil, making it a better place 
> for everyone.
> It starts out as a group of two people, me and my partner.  Anybody, who 
> wants to join can join.  They will venture out and do things as a group, and 
> fight evil monsters, etc.
> My experiance as a PBEM is only with X-Calibre, part of Unity-games.  I was 
> not a GM, but only a player.  X-Calibre NEVER sims, and I joined the group 
> to sim.  They sim like every other month.  I want to start a new game, so 
> people can have fun, and express their creativity by PBEM.
> Thank you again, for letting me start this group. I really have been waiting 
> for a  group that will actually let me create my own group.
> Please reply ASAP, so I can start my group, and advertise for it.
> -Fais14
> 
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JasonKnight
M. Jason Knight

Sat

Oct 9
1999

01:43Z

Req> New Game, DragonLance (fwd)

On 7 Oct 99, at 18:04, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> figure out is what they're doing when they're not simming... does this
> person consider "simming" and "roleplaying" to be two different things? 

Strictly speaking, they are.  "Simming" is freeform/improv in which 
one adopts a persona and wanders about living the mundane 
details of the character's life. At best, the gamemaster-equivalent 
merely runs the npc's and adjudicates the (sometimes frequent) 
disputes.  When it acquires a plot, it becomes "pbem" or 
"roleplaying."  In practice, neither the sims/games nor the terms 
are so clearly divided.

I visited http://www.unity-games.com, and it appears to be a similar 
site to the Phoenyx, though much inferior in quality, I hasten to 
add. Much is made of the fact that they're not political like those 
other groups - this seems to be chronic with Trek sim groups - but 
you can't be a member of one of the other groups and you must be 
sponsored by one of the insiders.

They have two tiers, one of full-fledged games (as the Phoenyx), 
one of games who just get to associate themselves with the site 
but have no mailing list or web space there. Perhaps the Phoenyx 
could offer something like this to the also-rans.


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