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NickPendrell
Nick Pendrell

Thu

Dec 2
1999

12:32Z

Unsubscribing Players - CORRECTION

Apologies - I found the daily summary buried under a pile of mail.

The daily summary does show that a whole bunch of subscribers have all
mysteriously disappeared at exactly the same time, as below.

Help!


Nick

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-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Dec 2
1999

14:44Z

Unsubscribing Players - CORRECTION

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Pendrell wrote:

NP>The daily summary does show that a whole bunch of subscribers have all
NP>mysteriously disappeared at exactly the same time, as below.

You know, we'd all be better off some days if I just kept my hands off the
keyboard.  You'll notice that "exactly the same time" was *after* the
intial problem.  In fact, you may notice that "exactly the same time" was
shortly after I posted "Nope, everything's fine except the file was busy."

Well, everything *was* fine until I ran my little synchronizing
utility.  It's a wonderful little utility... run with one set of
parameters, it will check to see if a list of users are subscribed.  Run
with a different parameter, it will remove a list of users...

Anyway, I put them back, so you should see a bunch of "exactly the same
time" subscribes this morning.

Good grief.

(One sign that something is wrong is when you get a bunch of "left
subtopic" without an actual unsubscribe.  Real Soon Now the status report
will be something more intelligent than a logfile dump, so that this is
more obvious.)


-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

NickPendrell
Nick Pendrell

Thu

Dec 2
1999

15:06Z

Unsubscribing Players - CORRECTION

After reading through your message several times, I still can't figure out if
it's me that did something stupid or you.

If it's me, then I offer my most humble apologies!

But whatever you did now, all of the subscribers seem to be back on the list.

Thank you very much for all your help with this.

Bye for now,


Nick

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Pendrell wrote:

NP>The daily summary does show that a whole bunch of subscribers have all
NP>mysteriously disappeared at exactly the same time, as below.

You know, we'd all be better off some days if I just kept my hands off the
keyboard.  You'll notice that "exactly the same time" was *after* the
intial problem.  In fact, you may notice that "exactly the same time" was
shortly after I posted "Nope, everything's fine except the file was busy."

Well, everything *was* fine until I ran my little synchronizing
utility.  It's a wonderful little utility... run with one set of
parameters, it will check to see if a list of users are subscribed.  Run
with a different parameter, it will remove a list of users...

Anyway, I put them back, so you should see a bunch of "exactly the same
time" subscribes this morning.

Good grief.

(One sign that something is wrong is when you get a bunch of "left
subtopic" without an actual unsubscribe.  Real Soon Now the status report
will be something more intelligent than a logfile dump, so that this is
more obvious.)


-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

NickPendrell
Nick Pendrell

Thu

Dec 2
1999

16:16Z

Unsubscribing Players - CORRECTION

Me:  instead of checking to see if they were subscribed, I unsubscribed
them.  With, as you noticed, about two thirds of your list.


Thanks - even a numbskull like me can understand it now!

Thanks again for all your help in resolving this.

Bye for now,


Nick
-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Dec 2
1999

16:02Z

Unsubscribing Players - CORRECTION

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Nick Pendrell wrote:

NP>After reading through your message several times, I still can't figure out if
NP>it's me that did something stupid or you.

Me:  instead of checking to see if they were subscribed, I unsubscribed
them.  With, as you noticed, about two thirds of your list.


-- --------------------------------------------------------------
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners

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