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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Mon

Jan 3
2000

18:01Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

Okay, here are some things I'm kicking around for the next release.  
(First I have to update the docco for this release.)  Feel free to add to
the list, or point out any non-functioning features in the current
release, and let me know what you want prioritized highest.

Keyword recognition - ban (or direct to subtopic, or send help file in
response to) message based on words in subject or body.

More detailed mail log - including when it was delivered, and to whom.

Number moderation - users' first N messages must be moderated

Bypass moderation - set certain users to never be moderated

Release after no approval - release members' messages after N days if no
action is taken otherwise.

Replace/enhance Mhonarc (web archiver) - allow replying (by members) from
web page, last-read markers, etc.

Configurable bouncer settings - adjust frequency and duration of bounce
notifications, prevent certain users from being auto-unsubbed

Make available as newsgroup - echo to private, secure newsserver

Fix the darn auto-unsubber


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Karen J. Cravens  silver@phoenyx.net
The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/


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TimHall
Tim Hall

Mon

Jan 3
2000

22:53Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

>Keyword recognition - ban (or direct to subtopic, or send help file in
>response to) message based on words in subject or body.

I'm sure there are a lot of uses for a feature like this, but I can
see problems as well (subject lines might be OK, but keywords in the
message body might be troublesome).

>Configurable bouncer settings - adjust frequency and duration of bounce
>notifications, prevent certain users from being auto-unsubbed

Might be useful to prevent players getting auto-unsubbed.

>Make available as newsgroup - echo to private, secure newsserver

I like this idea a lot; would be especially useful for the non-game
groups.  But do we really want a phoenyx.chatter?

>Fix the darn auto-unsubber

How many non-standard mail systems are there out there?  

--
Tim Hall, http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/timjh

"The Very Big Stupid is a thing which breeds by eating The Future.  Have 
 you seen it?  It sometimes disguises itself as a good-looking quarterly 
 bottom line, derived by closing the R&D department"
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AsHer
Asher

Tue

Jan 4
2000

04:04Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

Karen Cravens wrote:
> 
> Okay, here are some things I'm kicking around for the next release.
> (First I have to update the docco for this release.)  Feel free to add to
> the list, or point out any non-functioning features in the current
> release, and let me know what you want prioritized highest.


  Just something I noticed when subscribing someone using the command to
the majordomo, it sends out the welcome message to the person sending
the command...not to the person subscribed.  Just FYI.

Asher
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Tue

Jan 4
2000

15:09Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Asher wrote:

>   Just something I noticed when subscribing someone using the command to
> the majordomo, it sends out the welcome message to the person sending
> the command...not to the person subscribed.  Just FYI.

Another good reason not to subscribe people... they should be subscribing
themselves. 

--
Carl D Cravens (raven@phoenyx.net)
Where am I . . . and why am I in this handbasket?

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JasonKnight
M. Jason Knight

Wed

Jan 5
2000

01:14Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

On 3 Jan 00, at 12:01, Karen Cravens wrote:

> Keyword recognition - ban (or direct to subtopic, or send help file in
> response to) message based on words in subject or body.

Subject plus first non-blank line was a good search on the old one, 
usually caught the "please unsubscribe me" one-liners.
 
> More detailed mail log - including when it was delivered, and to whom.

Not much of a factor.

> Number moderation - users' first N messages must be moderated

Don't know if I'd use this.  Would be nice on some lists, though.

> Bypass moderation - set certain users to never be moderated

Probably useful for some games.  Westwind is blessed with a 
normally quiet batch of lurkers.
 
> Release after no approval - release members' messages after N days if no
> action is taken otherwise.

Wouldn't use this, since we don't moderate.

> Replace/enhance Mhonarc (web archiver) - allow replying (by members) from
> web page, last-read markers, etc.

Mostly cosmetic.  Mhonarc is very customizable, isn't it?

> Configurable bouncer settings - adjust frequency and duration of bounce
> notifications, prevent certain users from being auto-unsubbed

Freq/duration seems all right, but locking certain users in would be 
very good.

> Make available as newsgroup - echo to private, secure newsserver

No interest from me.

> Fix the darn auto-unsubber

Jeff seems to work fine to me.


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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Jan 6
2000

20:44Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, timjh@csi.com wrote:

t>I'm sure there are a lot of uses for a feature like this, but I can
t>see problems as well (subject lines might be OK, but keywords in the
t>message body might be troublesome).

As Jason mentioned, the old software (waaay back when) used to scan the
first line of the body, which occasionally got some false hits, but not
too often.

t>Might be useful to prevent players getting auto-unsubbed.

Players hadn't ought to be on unreliable servers anyway, but it can
happen.

t>How many non-standard mail systems are there out there?  

Zillions.  But right now it doesn't appear to be picking up on normal MIME
reports.

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Karen J. Cravens  silver@phoenyx.net
The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/




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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Jan 6
2000

20:45Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Asher wrote:

A>  Just something I noticed when subscribing someone using the command to
A>the majordomo, it sends out the welcome message to the person sending
A>the command...not to the person subscribed.  Just FYI.

Yeah, I think it's fixed in the alpha version, but not in production yet.

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The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/




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JeffJohnson
Jeff Johnson

Sat

Jan 8
2000

04:09Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

> > Fix the darn auto-unsubber
>
> Jeff seems to work fine to me.

Yeah, but I'm not volunteering to do this for any other list...

The old VB Phoenyx had a randomizer built in that you could access with
special characters in your message. Any chance of that making a
reappearance? I never did get around to using it, but it was more
convenient than the various web dice servers.


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Jeff Johnson
jsjohnso@islandnet.com

Tinsel is really snakes' mirrors.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

Jan 11
2000

01:48Z

Release 1.2... you pick the features

On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Jeff Johnson wrote:

JJ>The old VB Phoenyx had a randomizer built in that you could access with
JJ>special characters in your message. Any chance of that making a
JJ>reappearance? I never did get around to using it, but it was more
JJ>convenient than the various web dice servers.

Not until I figure out how to make it easier to use.  The old one was okay
[for those who weren't around, if you embedded $[1d10] in a message, it
replaced it with ${1d10 = 5} or so in the distributed version.  And it
wailed if you tried to embed ${1d10 = 10} in a message yourself] but no
one ever remembered how it worked (example: I can't actually remember
if it started with square braces and replaced them with curly or the other
way around) so they didn't use it.  You could get fancy and use 1d10+10,
2d6+1d10, all sorts of things, even Fudge dice.

I'm open to suggestions to make it usable.

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The Dog Ate My Sketchbook:  http://silver.phoenyx.net/



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