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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

Feb 1
2000

02:59Z

[Web] On banners and traffic and other things

Okay, traffic first.  Overall, Phoenyx hits are up about 10%
(conservatively... liberally, we're up 40%, but a good chunk of that can
be attributed to increased hits from banner CGI et al rather than
legitimate new traffic) over December, plus whatever traffic we get today,
and steadily climbing.  I have no idea why, other than more and more
places are linking to us, and we're getting better positioning in search
engines as I fine-tune keywords, I guess.  Or maybe the net is just
growing lots.

I've been doing some researching on banner ads, and what I'm seeing says a
2-3% click-through rate is about typical for a well-done ad.  Ours
are sitting at:

Kalyr     3.345%
TKR       7.103%
Westwind  5.000%
Car Wars  3.539%
Fuge      1.515% (I really need to redo that banner, and yes, I mistyped)
Phoenyx   1.098% (semi-ditto, except it's really a filler banner and don't
expect too much traffic until we get a lot more non-Phoenyx sites.  Who's 
going to click a Phoenyx banner when they're already there?)
Ultimatim 5.263% (which is less impressive when you realize that
percentage is only one click, probably Tim hisownself, out of only 19
displays...)
PBMCube   0.000% (he's unlikely to get any clickthroughs until he gets
around to showing a banner... I really should email him)

Personally, I think people are more likely to click when there *isn't* an
annoying animation blinkitying at them.  Targeted advertising is also
working in our favor, of course.  Pester any non-Phoenyx PBeM website
maintainers you know to join up:  http://www.phoenyx.net/bp/ is the banner
homepage.

Lastly, the obligatory periodic guilt trip:  back-of-the-envelope
calculation indicates that we could sell about 10,000 impressions a month
to a commercial banner advertiser.  That's between $200 and $500 a month
we're not making by not selling out to the man.  But, you know, after
reading about the DoubleClick doublecross, it's a whole lot easier to not
worry about that money right now...

(FWIW, we're paying close to $250/month for the Phoenyx connection, on
account of bandwidth here in flyover country ain't cheap yet.  It's
getting cheaper, however, and once we satisfy ourselves that it's going to
be acceptable quality, we'll be switching to a DSL line at < $100/month.  
That'll be pretty helpful when our spending money gets cut by about
$1500/month starting in June-ish.  Feel free to refer freelance Perl
programming and web stuff my way at any time.)


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