Okay, at the risk of throwing still more things at you: Alan Schwartz' pbemtools is a set of perl scripts he wrote to format and process his PBeM turns and moves... the site is out there at http://www.pennmush.org/~alansz/pbemtools/ Now, ignore all the stuff where it tells you how to process it, because he assumes a fair amount of Unix shell knowledge. I've, instead, fiddled around with incorporating it directly into the mailing list. But look at his sample web output and see if that sort of thing interests you: http://www.pennmush.org/~alansz/mage/ Then, if that sort of web organization of things looks interesting, take a look at http://www.phoenyx.net/help/pbemtool.html which is hypothetically the player's side of things on the Phoenyx' implementation, and tell me if you think that's something you could persuade your players to do. If your game isn't very turn/move based, or if it's very fast-paced (I'm looking at Nick as I say this), you may not want to deal with this. But I know some of you run fairly structured games which might benefit from this type of archive more than from the generic MHonArc archive-of-the-list. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners
>If your game isn't very turn/move based, or if it's very fast-paced (I'm >looking at Nick as I say this), you may not want to deal with this. But I >know some of you run fairly structured games which might benefit from this >type of archive more than from the generic MHonArc archive-of-the-list. I'm trying to get my head round this at the moment, since it looks as though Kalyr is the sort of game that might benefit from this. I do have some questions (I may just be too dense to understand the documentation) Firstly, I assume all commands should be sent to majordomo@phoenyx.net. Secondly, quoting the held page >First, create the turn "source" with the catmoves command. >catmoves groupname # > >This will create a file called groupname-#.src in your /files >directory, where # is the next turn number in sequence. After you have >edited it and cleaned it up, name it to groupname-# (no extension). Does this mean I have have to retrieve the file from the server, or does catmoves return the file as it's reply? Also, how does it cope with quoted text, .sig files etc? And finally, what does defining npcs do? -- Tim Hall, timjh (at) compuserve.com * http://www.kalyr.com "Divide by cucumber error: Please reinstall universe and reboot" -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, timjh@csi.com wrote:
t>I do have some questions (I may just be too dense to understand the
t>documentation)
It's sort of sparse, chiefly because I haven't used it all that much.
t>Firstly, I assume all commands should be sent to
t>majordomo@phoenyx.net.
Yep.
t>>This will create a file called groupname-#.src in your /files
t>>directory, where # is the next turn number in sequence. After you have
t>>edited it and cleaned it up, name it to groupname-# (no extension).
t>
t>Does this mean I have have to retrieve the file from the server, or
t>does catmoves return the file as it's reply?
Uh... I think it returns the file. You will, however, have to either use
the web editor to edit it, or at least to re-upload the edited version,
and give it the new name.
t>Also, how does it cope with quoted text, .sig files etc?
Quoted text it is supposed to deal with very well; it uses a pretty
nice-looking algorithm to use quoted text to synchronize everything. Now,
if you get something non-linear (say, more than one person replies to a
particular quoted line), you'll end up with
Person A's Statement
Person B's Statement Replying To A
Person C's Statement Replying To A
and C's statement may not make sense with B's statement interposed, but
that's why you get the chance to edit the file.
.Sig files it will happily trim if it can recognize them, which means they
have to start with two dashes. (Technically, two dashes on a line by
themselves or at least followed by whitespace, but I think it's a little
more lenient than that.) Otherwise, you'll have to edit those
out. ('Splain to your players that they should properly delimit their
sigfiles, it'll make life easier, and let the web forum stuff pick up on
it too.)
t>And finally, what does defining npcs do?
A defined NPC gets treated like a regular character by the web-threading
stuff. That is, if you want to, you can read the story from the viewpoint
of that NPC. At least, I'm pretty sure that's what it does (and that
that's all it does).
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Karen Cravens wrote: >Uh... I think it returns the file. You will, however, have to either use >the web editor to edit it, or at least to re-upload the edited version, >and give it the new name. Is this purely for the web archives, or would I need to use the web editor to create the next turn to send out to the players? -- Tim Hall, timjh (at) compuserve.com * http://www.kalyr.com "Divide by cucumber error: Please reinstall universe and reboot" -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Tim Hall wrote: TH>Is this purely for the web archives, or would I need to use the web TH>editor to create the next turn to send out to the players? You'd need to use the web editor (which is sort of misnamed, as it covers all Phoenyx files, not just ones that show up on the web) to create the next turn for "doturn" to process. All of pbemtools' auto-generated stuff only needs edited to customize any labels you want, add explanatory paragraphs at the top, whatever. -- Karen J. Cravens silver@phoenyx.net The Dog Ate My Sketchbook: http://silver.phoenyx.net/ -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners
