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TimHall
Tim Hall

Mon

May 1
2000

10:42Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

This may seem off-topic, but it may lead to a lot of new game
submissions to the phoenyx.

Here's why;

As some of you might know, I started off my on-line GMing career on
Compuserve's RPGAMES forum, using the forum message boards.  I have
always found this forum to be an excellent communtity of GMs and
players, and a lot of very high quality games have run there.

A month ago, there was a major forum restructuring, and RPGAMES was
replaced by a new forum called ADULTRPG.  The reason we were given at
the time was that, since most of Compuserve's forums were being opened
to the web, the only way we could preserve a member-only forum was to
move it into the 'Adult' section.  Many people voiced concern at this
at the time, but we were assured that the place would not be allowed
to degenerate into an 'adult chatroom', and would be much as it had
before (except for the absence of any under-18s)

Now it appears that we've been at best misled, at worse lied to.  The
forum web-view front page ( http://go.compuserve.com/adultrpg
,although I *think* non-CSI customers cannot reach this page) is
heavily promoting those threads with explicit sexual content.  We've
started to get off-topic sleazy 'Adult Personal Ads' posted into game
threads by the types attracted by these.   Forum management are
brushing off complaints with platitudes, and removing all criticism of
the direction things are going from the message boards.  

The result of this is there will be a lot of high-quality games
looking for new homes.  Unless Karen and Carl raise any objections I
indent to recommend the Phoenyx to any GMs who's games come up to the
Phoenyx's standards.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

May 2
2000

02:46Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>Now it appears that we've been at best misled, at worse lied to.  The
TH>forum web-view front page ( http://go.compuserve.com/adultrpg
TH>,although I *think* non-CSI customers cannot reach this page) is

Only CIS or AOL customers, right.

TH>The result of this is there will be a lot of high-quality games
TH>looking for new homes.  Unless Karen and Carl raise any objections I
TH>indent to recommend the Phoenyx to any GMs who's games come up to the
TH>Phoenyx's standards.

Indent away.

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Tue

May 2
2000

18:21Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

Karen Cravens wrote:

>Only CIS or AOL customers, right.

Only CIS Customers, I think.

>Indent away.

Erk!  Typo demon strikes.  Begone foul fiend!

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

May 2
2000

18:30Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

On Tue, 2 May 2000, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>Karen Cravens wrote:
TH>
TH>>Only CIS or AOL customers, right.
TH>
TH>Only CIS Customers, I think.

Well, when I peeked at the URL, it told me I could enter either a CIS (or
CSI, I guess they call themselves now, but it was CI$ when I was 70005,xxx
back when) or AOL screen name.  Not that I had one to see if it really
worked.

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Tue

May 2
2000

19:02Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

Karen Cravens:

>Well, when I peeked at the URL, it told me I could enter either a CIS (or
>CSI, I guess they call themselves now, but it was CI$ when I was 70005,xxx
>back when) or AOL screen name.  Not that I had one to see if it really
>worked.

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it *is* inaccessible from outside.
For many forums, you can see the front page if you're not a member,
but can't get any further - but ADULTRPG is behind the 'Adult'
firewall.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

May 2
2000

20:21Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

On Tue, 2 May 2000, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure it *is* inaccessible from outside.
TH>For many forums, you can see the front page if you're not a member,
TH>but can't get any further - but ADULTRPG is behind the 'Adult'
TH>firewall.

Right.  If you hit it from a non-CIS/CSI/AOL location, you get the
opportunity to enter your screen name/password to bypass the firewall.

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PopeyEsays
Popeyesays

Tue

May 2
2000

22:48Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

In a message dated 5/2/00 3:21:42 PM Central Daylight Time, 
silver@phoenyx.net writes:

<< 
 Right.  If you hit it from a non-CIS/CSI/AOL location, you get the
 opportunity to enter your screen name/password to bypass the firewall.
  >>

And it tells you your AOL screen name is not recognized.
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BlueScourge
Blue Scourge

Wed

May 3
2000

01:40Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

>Now it appears that we've been at best misled, at worse lied to.  The
>forum web-view front page ( http://go.compuserve.com/adultrpg
>,although I *think* non-CSI customers cannot reach this page) is
>heavily promoting those threads with explicit sexual content.  We've
>started to get off-topic sleazy 'Adult Personal Ads' posted into game
>threads by the types attracted by these.   Forum management are
>brushing off complaints with platitudes, and removing all criticism of
>the direction things are going from the message boards.

Never trust anything remotely to do with "adult content", I always say. It 
gets a lot of people disgusted and angry. Just take the Clinton scandal or 
the Pamela Anderson/Tommy Lee video for instance.

Not that I know any of this from experience, of course, being under 18.... 
No, seriously...

-The little devil on everyone's shoulder
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

May 3
2000

02:11Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

On Tue, 2 May 2000 Popeyesays@aol.com wrote:

><< 
> Right.  If you hit it from a non-CIS/CSI/AOL location, you get the
> opportunity to enter your screen name/password to bypass the firewall.
>  >>
>
>And it tells you your AOL screen name is not recognized.

Well, in my case that would be because I haven't got an AOL screen name...

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PopeyEsays
Popeyesays

Wed

May 3
2000

04:09Z

Chat> Refugees Coming?

In a message dated 5/2/00 9:11:47 PM Central Daylight Time, 
silver@phoenyx.net writes:

<< , in my case that would be because I haven't got an AOL screen name... >>

I do and it still won't let me into Compuserve and they own each other
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