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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Jul 12
2001

14:49Z

Chat?

Oops... yesterday was Wednesday and we completely forgot about the chat.
Apologies to the "guest" who logged in about chat time last night and
found nobody there.

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MeeraBarry
Meera Barry

Thu

Jul 12
2001

17:47Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> Oops... yesterday was Wednesday and we completely forgot about the chat.
> Apologies to the "guest" who logged in about chat time last night and
> found nobody there.

	[grinning]  Oh sure, I throw everyone off the computer
	and get confused... thinking "Did we change the chat
	times and I missed it again?"

\\ Mb \\
mabarry@xpert.net
Etc.

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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Jul 12
2001

20:16Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Meera Barry wrote:

> 	[grinning]  Oh sure, I throw everyone off the computer
> 	and get confused... thinking "Did we change the chat
> 	times and I missed it again?"

Oh, shoot... don't tell me that was you.  And we even had an agenda and
all.  (My week's been kind of unusual and I completely forgot it was
Wednesday for most of the day.  I've stuck the meeting in my reminder
file.)

Karen, you want to schedule a meeting for this Saturday at 14:00 CDT
instead?  Can our European crowd make it on short notice?  (I don't think
we have anything going on Saturday afternoon.)

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Thu

Jul 12
2001

20:31Z

Chat?

Carl D Cravens wrote:

>Karen, you want to schedule a meeting for this Saturday at 14:00 CDT
>instead?  Can our European crowd make it on short notice?  (I don't think
>we have anything going on Saturday afternoon.)

I can make that time, at any rate
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Jul 12
2001

20:50Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tim Hall wrote:

> >Karen, you want to schedule a meeting for this Saturday at 14:00 CDT
> >instead?  Can our European crowd make it on short notice?  (I don't think
> >we have anything going on Saturday afternoon.)
>
> I can make that time, at any rate

If we get one more, that'll be a record-breaker.

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MikeF
Mike Feldhusen

Fri

Jul 13
2001

15:00Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Tim Hall wrote:

> > >Karen, you want to schedule a meeting for this Saturday at 14:00
> > >CDT instead?  Can our European crowd make it on short notice?  (I
> > >don't think we have anything going on Saturday afternoon.)

> > I can make that time, at any rate

> If we get one more, that'll be a record-breaker.

Regrettably, I'll be busy tomorrow early afternoon.

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HanleyMartin
Hanley, Martin

Fri

Jul 13
2001

15:25Z

Chat?

Pooh... I wish I could make it, but I'll be with Boy Scouts camping
tomorrow.  I assume that you'll post the info to the list?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl D Cravens [mailto:raven@phoenyx.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: listowners@phoenyx.net
> Subject: Re: LO: Chat?
> 
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 BoBoII@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > And where will this chat be, again?
> 
> http://www.phoenyx.net/chat/
> 
> Gives all the info about logging into the MOO.  And the chat 
> takes place
> in the Main Lobby.
> 
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> 
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:07Z

Chat?

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Hanley, Martin wrote:

> Pooh... I wish I could make it, but I'll be with Boy Scouts camping
> tomorrow.  I assume that you'll post the info to the list?

All the chat logs show up on the volunteers page...

http://www.phoenyx.net/volunteers/

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Chuk
Chuk Goodin

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:15Z

Chat?

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Hanley, Martin wrote:
>
> > Pooh... I wish I could make it, but I'll be with Boy Scouts camping
> > tomorrow.  I assume that you'll post the info to the list?
>
> All the chat logs show up on the volunteers page...
>
> http://www.phoenyx.net/volunteers/

No they don't -- 404 as of 2 seconds ago.

chuk

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:20Z

Chat?

On 13 Jul 2001, at 17:07, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> All the chat logs show up on the volunteers page...
> http://www.phoenyx.net/volunteers/

Close, but not... uh... all that close:

http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/volunteers.html

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:27Z

Chat?

On 13 Jul 2001, at 17:20, Karen Cravens wrote:

> http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/volunteers.html

And having just reread the most recent chat, I'd like to take this 
opportunity to point out that the first Tim mentioned is not our Tim, 
but a guy who kept requesting different games, and submitting ever 
more "supporting material" for his submissions, in the apparent 
delusion that we were going to build him an Everquest-alike.  He 
was cute, but we decided not to keep him.  The subsequent 
mentions are Tim Hall, and we're keeping him.

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MeeraBarry
Meera Barry

Thu

Jul 12
2001

21:19Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> Oh, shoot... don't tell me that was you.  And we even had an agenda...

	I logged in as "guest" a couple times on the half-hour to
	see if anyone was in, so I'm guessing it was me.

	Unfortunately, Saturday is not going to work for me, we
	had a family emergency and I have two little girls I have
	to take to a gaming convention going on this weekend. [sigh]
	
	I _will_ make it one of these days...soon!

[I wonder if either of the girls will want to learn Battletech.  It's
better than my idea of having them join my throne war.  "Do you want to
kill your sister?" "Yes!"]


\\ Mb \\
mabarry@rpg.net
Colorado Springs, Colorado
The Glitter and the Glamour (updated later today!)


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Chuk
Chuk Goodin

Thu

Jul 12
2001

21:28Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Meera Barry wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Carl D Cravens wrote:
>
> > Oh, shoot... don't tell me that was you.  And we even had an agenda...
>
> 	I logged in as "guest" a couple times on the half-hour to
> 	see if anyone was in, so I'm guessing it was me.
>
> 	Unfortunately, Saturday is not going to work for me, we
> 	had a family emergency and I have two little girls I have
> 	to take to a gaming convention going on this weekend. [sigh]
>
> 	I _will_ make it one of these days...soon!
>
> [I wonder if either of the girls will want to learn Battletech.  It's
> better than my idea of having them join my throne war.  "Do you want to
> kill your sister?" "Yes!"]

How old are your girls?  I'm just getting my kids (son 8, daughters 4 and
1) into gaming, but the girls are pretty much too young to really play
(the oldest girl likes moving paper miniatures and rolling dice, and she
quite liked the Pokemon Jr Adventure Game (especially the picture of a
hospitalized Pikachu)).  Do you have any tips for getting them into
gaming?

chuk

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MeeraBarry
Meera Barry

Thu

Jul 12
2001

22:01Z

Chat?

> How old are your girls?  I'm just getting my kids (son 8, daughters 4 and
> 1) into gaming, but the girls are pretty much too young to really play
> (the oldest girl likes moving paper miniatures and rolling dice, and she
> quite liked the Pokemon Jr Adventure Game (especially the picture of a
> hospitalized Pikachu)).  Do you have any tips for getting them into
> gaming?

	They're my little sisters.  One is 8, and the other is four.
	We've been working on the eight-year-old for years, and she
	is a definite gamer.  (We had her join as a dice monster when
	the family went gaming as she was younger, just to be part of
	the "group.")  

	The four year old can't quite read all the dice yet, but she
	likes being part of the attention.  I think that's the big
	thing; make it a group activity, be patient with them, and
	cater to their interests.

	The older one is interested in D&D, BESM, and we're going to
	try her on Feng Shui.  Honestly, she isn't big on the rules;
	we do a lot of "This is what you need to roll for this," and
	encourage her to read the book, but that will come later.
	Right now we mostly want her to think her way out of puzzles.

	The younger one we play "Kobolds Ate My Baby!" and other
	light-hearted games.  We try to bring in characters from 
	cartoons she watches (guest appearance of the PowerPuff 
	Girls!) and that keeps her attention.

	Honestly, the games the kids play without supervision are
	just roleplaying without the rules.  As I write this message,
	the younger one is having a serious scene with the stuffed
	horse (minature) and the shopping cart.  If I went and sat
	down with her, we could build a world around it.
	
	I joke about the Battletech because I want the older one
	to have a reason to learn her math...


\\ Mb \\
mabarry@xpert.net
Big Sister, and GM.


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JonathanWalton
Jonathan Walton

Thu

Jul 12
2001

23:00Z

Chat?

>Do you have any tips for getting them into
>gaming?

Toon.

One of the most beautiful and simple games in the world.  Sigh.  I have 
happy childhood memories of playing that in Middle School, but it works 
with almost any ages.  Even kids can understand attributes like "Pick Up 
Heavy Thing."

Later.
Jonathan


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Chuk
Chuk Goodin

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:06Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Jonathan Walton wrote:

> >Do you have any tips for getting them into
> >gaming?
>
> Toon.

Yeah, I've got Toon, but for some reason it just never really did it for
me.  Maybe I should run GURPS Toon?  Or Hero Toon?

No, the system's fine, it's more the genre that I'm concerned with.  It's
hard for kids to do comedy.

chuk

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MeeraBarry
Meera Barry

Fri

Jul 13
2001

22:29Z

Chat?

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Chuk Goodin wrote:
 
> No, the system's fine, it's more the genre that I'm concerned with.  It's
> hard for kids to do comedy.

	They're never too young for propaganda!  

	(By which I originally meant that stories that had them
	be good, clean their room, explore in the dungeon of
	Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout, and otherwise do heroic things
	are good.  Then I had this horrific Toon-Paranoia crossover
	idea pop into my head.)

\\ Mb \\
about to read her sisters _The Thirteen Clocks_.

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JonathanWalton
Jonathan Walton

Thu

Jul 12
2001

22:57Z

Chat?

>Saturday at 14:00 CDT
>instead?

Hmm ... let's see ... math ... West Coast to East Coast ... so that's ...

The same time as my Vampire game.  Sorry.  I'll make it to one of these 
eventually.

Later.
Jonathan

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

01:29Z

Chat?

On 12 Jul 2001, at 17:57, Jonathan Walton wrote:

> Hmm ... let's see ... math ... West Coast to East Coast ... so that's ...

"C" is for Central time.  Believe me when I say you can't get much 
farther from a coast than we are...  :}
 
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

01:52Z

Chat?

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Karen Cravens wrote:

> "C" is for Central time.

And it looks like we are going to have a chat at 14:00 CDT (-0500 GMT)
this Saturday.

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BoBoII
BoBoII

Fri

Jul 13
2001

06:04Z

Chat?

And where will this chat be, again?
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Fri

Jul 13
2001

15:11Z

Chat?

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 BoBoII@aol.com wrote:

> And where will this chat be, again?

http://www.phoenyx.net/chat/

Gives all the info about logging into the MOO.  And the chat takes place
in the Main Lobby.

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