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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Mon

Aug 6
2001

03:32Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

Okay, no, I'm not.  I'm a new player.  I've just accessed the 
Phoenyx front page, saw the article about openings, and followed 
the link to your game.  Is it clear to me what I should do next?
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MikeF
Mike Feldhusen

Mon

Aug 6
2001

16:05Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Karen Cravens wrote:

> Okay, no, I'm not.  I'm a new player.  I've just accessed the
> Phoenyx front page, saw the article about openings, and followed
> the link to your game.  Is it clear to me what I should do next?

Hmm...  Probably not.  I suppose that means I should work on that,
right?

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Game(s): Rumors of War / Science Fiction Category Editor
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Mon

Aug 6
2001

17:04Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Karen Cravens wrote:

> Okay, no, I'm not.  I'm a new player.  I've just accessed the
> Phoenyx front page, saw the article about openings, and followed
> the link to your game.  Is it clear to me what I should do next?

Speaking of, the Realms page seems to be suddenly missing the navbar.

Whether Karen makes the navbar optional or not, there has to be something
on your game's main page to tie it to the Phoenyx.  Your game will benefit
from our reputation, for one thing.

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Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

Aug 8
2001

01:58Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On 6 Aug 2001, at 12:04, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> Speaking of, the Realms page seems to be suddenly missing the navbar.

"Suddenly"?  The file date is what, a month old...
 

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Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/

WaLdo
waldo

Wed

Aug 8
2001

14:52Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On 7 Aug 2001, at 20:58, Karen Cravens wrote:

> On 6 Aug 2001, at 12:04, Carl D Cravens wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of, the Realms page seems to be suddenly missing the
> > navbar.
> 
> "Suddenly"?  The file date is what, a month old...
> 


Doh! I just realized that the navbar has disappeared; I had it on the 
original version of the page but when I switched to use FP2k it 
must have bit the dust.  The problem I'm having is that with FP2k 
you really need to use ftp (rather than the browser based one file at 
a time) to guarantee everything gets uploaded (I cursed myself by 
deciding to use a FP scheme):  It's taking an hour of uploads to get 
all the graphics, etc. in place any time I update the pages.   When 
will ftp access be available?  

I'll see if I can get it fixed this weekend, though it may have to wait 
until next week b/c I'll be in the process of a cross-country move 
starting on Sunday.  




MJ Harnish
waldo@earthling.net
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Wed

Aug 8
2001

20:13Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 waldo@theshop.net wrote:

> deciding to use a FP scheme):  It's taking an hour of uploads to get
> all the graphics, etc. in place any time I update the pages.   When
> will ftp access be available?

Today, this very moment, you can now FTP directly into your web file area
using your listname and password.  Just ftp to ftp.phoenyx.net and enter
your listname as the login, then your web-editor password (probably your
initial password).

Sorta.  We're now maintaining passwords in about three or four different
places.  I'm not sure if you can change your web-editor password right now
(Karen, is that linked to changing the list password?).  I generated the
FTP passwords from the web-editor passwords.  (Turns out that I can't
directly use the same password file as I thought.)

So if you've changed your list password, this one may or may not match
right now.

If you have trouble logging in, let me know.

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Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/

WaLdo
waldo

Wed

Aug 8
2001

20:21Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On 8 Aug 2001, at 15:13, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 waldo@theshop.net wrote:
> 
> > deciding to use a FP scheme):  It's taking an hour of uploads to get
> > all the graphics, etc. in place any time I update the pages.   When
> > will ftp access be available?
> 
> Today, this very moment, you can now FTP directly into your web file
> area using your listname and password.  Just ftp to ftp.phoenyx.net
> and enter your listname as the login, then your web-editor password
> (probably your initial password).
> 

Super!  Thanks.



MJ Harnish
waldo@earthling.net
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

Aug 8
2001

21:15Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

On 8 Aug 2001, at 15:13, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> (Karen, is that linked to changing the list password?).  I generated the
> FTP passwords from the web-editor passwords.  (Turns out that I can't
> directly use the same password file as I thought.)

Yup.  Look at sub cmd_passwd in /var/firehawk/bin/fh_server.pl if 
you want to add the FTP password file to the list.

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Wed

Aug 8
2001

22:26Z

FTP and file permissions (was: I Am Joe's Spleen)

Carl D Cravens wrote:

>If you have trouble logging in, let me know.

I tried updating index.html just now, and the existing file didn't
have 'overwrite permission' -  I had to delete the old before
uploading the new one.

While this isn't a big problem, but made me wonder if the file and
directory permissions are correct
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Aug 9
2001

01:58Z

FTP and file permissions (was: I Am Joe's Spleen)

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim Hall wrote:

> While this isn't a big problem, but made me wonder if the file and
> directory permissions are correct

File and directory permissions are awkward, because they were owned by
lots of different users.  It isn't easy to fix them as a batch...  I did
the best I could at the moment without getting deep into it, but I'm sure
there are things that were missed.

I would think the permissions on your index.html would have been right,
though.

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Wed

Aug 8
2001

22:26Z

I Am Joe's Spleen

Karen Cravens wrote:

>  Is it clear to me what I should do next?

Hmm.  I just got a Joe Spleen sending a character sheet to the list :)
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