You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you work, what are your other hobbies? For those of you that are relatively new around here, I'm the Phoenyx founder (foundress?), presently a stay-at-home mom after a bunch of years in the computer bidness. My other hobbies are art (colored pencil, chiefly), cooking, and sewing. And before that starts to sound too mundane, lemme point out that what I'm sewing, these days, is... um... well, animal tails. The kind you hang on your belt and wear. (*I* don't, except when taking pictures for auctions. I just sew them.) It's kind of nice, and it'll probably pay for our airfare to the next Phoenyx Gathering, but still, it's kind of embarrassing to explain. "Yeah, Mom, I'm finally making money on the Internet. It involves putting pictures of my butt on auction sites, but hey, the profit margin is really good." Actually, I haven't explained it to my mother yet. I may never. One person who thinks the whole operation is pretty neat is Nathan, our 21-month-old son. He carries around scraps of fur, rubbing them on his cheek and saying "Furry!" It used to sound more like "Phooey," but either he's getting clearer or we're just getting used to it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half > of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you > work, what are your other hobbies? The Phoenyx game I run is More Things in Heaven and Earth, a Fudge "Supernatural Investigators" game. It's been moribound this week because there is a monster of a NOAO telescope time proposal that's completely sucked me in. However, it's due in an hour and a half, so soon *that* will be over. (Why am I wasting time E-mailing here when it is due so soon? Because I am waiting to hear back from collaborators....) Me, I work at Vanderbilt University, where I'm a first-year assistant professor of Physics and Astronomy (with an empahsis on the latter). I'm a member of the Supernova Cosmology Project; we were one of two teams who were credited with Science Magazine's "discovery of the year" in 1998 (specifically, the discovery that the expansion of the universe is *accelerating* and that in addition to dark matter, the universe is filled with a mysterious "dark energy" that has truly perverse properties). Hobbies? Lots. Astronomy. (What? you say. That's your job! Well, professional astronomy and amateur astronomy are two rather different things.) Music and drama. (I play violin and viola, and I've done acting, producing, and directing in community theater.) Computers. (Serious Linux nerd, and I've been programming ever since I was an adolescent first on a Vic-20 and a Commodore 64.) Reading. And, oh yeah, roleplaying games. I also run a second, non-Phoenyx PBEM that's been going for some years; it's a GURPS Space game entitled "The Ashes of the Phoenix". (Right... the game *named* Phoenix is the one which is not on the Phoenyx....) -Rob -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> What games are you running, Well, I'm thrilled to be running (on the Phoenyx) "The Glitter and the Glamour," which is a faerycentric view of the "pre-happenings" of Zelazny's Amber novels. It's fairly successful with a good number of players, and open to a couple more. I'm starting a horror "letter game" via my weblog on my site... as well as doing a lot of game design for both my husband's spoofs of the WoD, and a couple of personal projects. I'm also very involved with the on-line Amber community, whether I like it or not. > where do you work I am currently unemployed, although I've had more interviews in the last couple of weeks than in the last 7 months combined. What I _do_ is, um, varied, but I'm looking for administrative work right now... > what are your other hobbies? I art around a little, mostly colouring gaming materials. I like to cook, sew, design, dream, and write. I dabble in voodoo, basketball, erotica, logic puzzles, politics, cartoons, humour, comparative religion, and, um, marine biology. In other words, "What other hobbies can I have, besides gaming?" It's all connected. \\ Mb \\ mabarry@xpert.net -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Glitter and the Glamour Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Karen Cravens wrote: > You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half > of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you > work, what are your other hobbies? Heh. I'm Carl, and I'm the Phoenyx patron. :) In addition to bringing home a paycheck, I handle the hardware, OS and network of the Phoenyx (time for another OS upgrade, darn it), wrangle the editorial staff (of one now, not including me... real life keeps getting in our way around here), and review/approve most of the game proposals. I work at Boeing, pretty much doing the same thing there as I do here (excluding game proposals), but on a larger scale... closer to 100 machines instead of two. It's pretty annoying on a lot of levels, but it pays the big bucks and allows Karen to stay at home to raise Nathan. My hobby seems to be collecting hobbies. While roleplaying has been my number-one hobby since junior high (I'm 33 now, and Karen's the elder, for the record), I dabble in just about everything... of my dabblings, the stuff I have a continued interest in is board/card gaming, woodworking and throwing pottery. (Continued interest doesn't mean I _do_ them much right now, but those are the things I've invested in heavily or want to get back to when I have the time.) Outside of that, I've done electronics, screen printing, drawing, sculpting, chess, go, fiction writing (I'd rather write game stuff), various musical instruments (I never have time to really get serious... my latest music interest was African drumming), stained glass, golf (barely... I'd like to learn, but I just don't have the time or money for it), cooking, miniature painting, miniature casting, silversmithing, and heck I can't remember what else. I'm getting ready to do some sculpting and pewter casting of bits and pieces for my ren faire costume, and probably a medallion for the next Phoenyx Gathering. Things I want to try are blacksmithing and glass blowing. Both are hard to just dabble in, as they require a significant investment and ongoing expense. I'm going to try glass bead making (I've dabbled a bit, but I don't have a big enough torch and need to buy a bit more equipment). So as I said, my real hobby is learning how to do things. I have trouble sticking with stuff once I've learned the basics and have gotten down into having to put in hard work to master the craft. The only artistic thing I'm very natural at is throwing pottery... I turned out a very workable pot on my second try, including a thrown lid with a thrown knob. (Karen knocked it down the stairs and broke the lid. Twice.) It still holds dog biscuits, sans lid. Of course, I read a lot. I alternate between history and fiction, with a little bit of technical stuff here and there. Gaming guides the direction of what I read, but the fuel for my reading is just passion for reading. If I didn't game, I might read different stuff, but I'd certainly be reading. So I don't really even consider it a hobby... it's just one of those things I have to do to live, like eating and breathing. Oh, and I'm a dad. That's still kind of weird sometimes, and Nathan's almost two years old already. But it's very cool. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On 16 Mar 2002 at 0:00, Carl D Cravens wrote: > Heh. I'm Carl, and I'm the Phoenyx patron. :) In addition to bringing Does that make me the Phoenyx matron? I'm not sure if that's good or bad. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Err... how should I start this... Greetings from Finland I'm Juuso, and I don't actually run any games now. I just administrate the Celandra mailing list, which used to host 2 interactive history games (the players run societies, not characters), but now only the Qaiyore game (=continent on the world of Celandra) is active. I continually plan on starting a new IH-game with the aim of creating a whole world & history & background for it during the game, but so far I've not had time to do it. I work in a small company doing data mining, and I'm currently finishing my PhD on the subject (which is what I should be doing now...). I'm married and have one 4-year old daughter. And another toddler will be coming in a few days. With job, being dad, and doing the research stuff, I don't have much time for hobbies, except for reading and a little bit of roleplaying. With respect to roleplaying, my big love is world building (which I plan to do some day... properly): I maintain a list of Worlds in the Net (http://www.iki.fi/juuso/networlds/), and some world building related pages. juuso -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Godfather/list maintainer of Celandra Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half > of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you > work, what are your other hobbies? I'm running Alien Light (a Fudge Supers game set in my own world). I work at Simon Fraser University in the Library, tracking down people who owe us money, mostly. (That's in Burnaby, not far from Vancouver, BC). I don't have any other hobbies. Well, I like computer games, and I'm kind of trying to teach myself to code, and sometimes I write some fiction (haven't sold any yet, though). Gaming's been a little slow since December 9th when my four-year old daughter got a kidney transplant, but she's been home and doing pretty well for a couple of months now. (I guess keeping up with medical information could count as another hobby.) I even hope to get a face-to-face game with my son and some of his friends this week (it's spring break for elementary and high school kids up here) -- we'll either play DnD 3rd ed or GURPS Wiz Kids (kind of like Harry Potter and his ilk). chuk (cgoodin@sfu.ca) -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Alien Light Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> > You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half > > of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you > > work, what are your other hobbies? Looks like I joined just in time for roll call. :) I'm Gabriel Bishop. I'm moving/re-starting a Vampire: the Masquerade game called Winds of Desire. I'm still working out how to transfer data and interested players. My hobbies are roleplaying and . . um, yeah, roleplaying. :) I live in Vancouver, WA and have the exciting job of opening mail and logging it into the computer. May explain why I prefer to roleplay instead of going to bars after work. :) Gabe aka Safirephoenix ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> I even hope to get a face-to-face game with my son and some of his > friends this week (it's spring break for elementary and high school kids up > here) -- we'll either play DnD 3rd ed or GURPS Wiz Kids (kind of like > Harry Potter and his ilk). Very cool. I remember when I was 11 or 12, wishing that my parents would play with me. I wanted to play *more often* that the 1/month or so that I got together with friends to play :) The idea of breaking in a new generation is great, though. One of the best D&D groups I was in at age 11 or so was with a bunch of graduate students. We moved to Berkeley, CA where my mom went to grad school in entimology. The other students in her lab (all 20somethings at the time) were playing D&D, and of course they were suitably horrified when my mom (the elderly later-in-life grad student) started telling them that they should let her junior high school age kid join in...! But they grudginly agreed, and I think in the end they decided it was fun to have me there. I certainly thought it was a lot of fun myself. -Rob -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
>My wife graduated from Oberlin back in 1992. (Small world, etc.) Oooh, now I get to figure out how to incorperate Obie jokes into the in-character discussions of "More Things." This should be fun :) -- "Hey, this ghost town has a smaller population than Oberlin football games!" -- "Hey, these random crop circles somewhat resemble architecture on the Oberlin campus!" -- "Hey, look at those aliens abducting cows for sexual experimentation. They don't even do things _that_ weird at Oberlin!" Not that my character could ever find an excuse to say any one of those things, but one can always hope... Later. Jonathan -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): All Tomorrows Parties, Deus Ex Machina Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Steve Hancock - that's me. Once Geologist in outback North Queensland Australia, now full time IT Tech with the government here in Adelaide Australia. (Its a long story) Trying desperately to run the worlds slackest PBEM game, it helps having some of the worlds slackest players (guys, are you dead or just sleeping?) I am collecting those inactivity alert emails at the moment - cheaper than collectable card games and the like. The Sylfer PBEM is in definite need of a shot in the arm to get it going but I have plans which are long term but slow in the workings. As I spend all day with computers I am strangely reluctant to come home, do a thousand other things and start writing Sylfer run downs at 2100 onwards... :) now where did I leave that barrel of enthusiasm.... Turned 31 a week and a bit ago :-) Dad to 3 kids ages 1, 3 and 5 - It is possible to live without sleep, I have proof. I run a face to face 3rd edition DND game every week barring weird goings on like kitchen redecorations. We rarely finish on time as we seem to have way too much fun to notice the time. I play in two other games, one 3rd edition Forgotten realms which pretty much keeps me sane (Drago your game _rocks_ if you ever read this) and another, the worlds most infrequent face to face game, which is really just a social get together for old die hard gamers like myself and my old Uni mates, Featuring the BDMFH or Bast*rd DM From Hell, king of the royal shafting. I write and SF/Fantasy, occasionally exercise to make sure I am still capable of moving when not motivated by chocolate. I am extremely slack in updating my web sites, so many things to do, so little time. Cheers 4 Now Steve -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Gigan Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
At 11:03 PM 3/15/2002, Karen Cravens wrote: >You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half >of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you >work, what are your other hobbies? I go away for a weekend and so listowners explodes. Of course. About me, well, I run Rumors of War and I'm the SF category editor here on the Phoenyx. I also run a monthly face-to-face space opera/merchant game (think Andre Norton's Solar Queen series and that's pretty close) in Fudge. I'm working on another PBEM, this one a fantasy. In other news, I'm recently unemployed, I dabble in computer games, martial arts (European-style sword fighting), calligraphy, programming as a hobby (it used to be a job, probably will be again in the near future [I hope]), writing and reading, mostly SF/Fantasy and history, but really just about anything that catches my interest. I'm married, have two cats and no children and live in the greater Boston area. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Rumors of War / Science Fiction Category Editor Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Michael J. Feldhusen wrote: > In other news, I'm recently unemployed, I dabble in computer games, martial Ouch... that's news to me. Was it voluntary or otherwise? -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
At 08:03 3/15/02, Karen wrote: >What games are you running, Thom Denholm here, http://www.arcathia.com I've been running PBEM since back in my SYSOP days (I wrote a custom program to handle die rolling). Currently I am running * the Biscuits, an AD&D2E Play by EMail in Greyhawk * Rus, a GURPS Play by Chat set in 960 AD Russia * DSR, an AD&D2E Play by Chat in Greyhawk * (tba), a Hackmaster face-to-face game in Greyhawk (the Saltmarsh region of U1-3, specifically) Currently I am playing in * Arcathia, a Play by EMail in Greyhawk (where I serve as the webmaster and general instigator) * Hawks Death, a Play by Email in Greyhawk * Andorian Trek, a face-to-face game that meets *very* occasionally, set in the "Enterprise" universe My connection to the Phoenyx is a failed PBEM attempt (Lebensraum, set in the Blue Planet game system) and I owe Carl a pile of backlogged GMAST mail. Someday I hope to utilize the Phoenyx resources for the greater good of humanity, or at least another game. >where do you work, what are your other hobbies? I work in Seattle (or Bothell) at an embedded systems company, which was around long before the dot coms. Other hobbies include umpiring local baseball games, attending minor league (WHL) hockey games, conflict simulations (aka war games), computer games of many varieties, and much other general mayhem. Raising a three year old also takes its toll on my free time... --Thom -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> > >You know, we're supposed to be a community... I don't even know half >of the gamemasters anymore. What games are you running, where do you >work, what are your other hobbies? > Hi all. I'm Bruce Humphrey, and I gamemaster the PBeM Forge of Legends, a PBeM using Pendragon rules. My game has been on halt lately, due to my DSL modem dying... Also, my players revolted and decided to move back to yahoogroups, where we had started, because they prefered that 'nicer' interface (sic). I sent a message to Karen, I hope, some time ago about how to deal with that, if it was possible to start a new group, as I intended to use Phoenyx tools. Also, maybe I could try to de-register everyone in forge@phoenyx.net now, and use that one... About table top RPGS: Ars Magica, Vampire, Legend of the 5 Rings, Pendragon. Always master, almost never player. My hobbies are chess, computer games, literature, rol, sports, friends. I work as a webmaster... in a company that has no webs at this moment! So I'm programming low level at this moment, and boy do I dislike that. Bruce -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On 28 Mar 2002 at 7:15, Bruce Humphrey wrote: > 'nicer' interface (sic). I sent a message to Karen, I hope, some time > ago about how to deal with that, if it was possible to start a new > group, as I intended to use Phoenyx tools. Also, maybe I could try to > de-register everyone in forge@phoenyx.net now, and use that one... Did I answer it? Or did somebody? (I don't actually handle much in the way of group creation these days. In theory, I'm working on the software. In practice, auctioning Furry Butt Ornaments (as my sister puts it) has taken up too much of my time.) -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Karen Cravens wrote: >On 28 Mar 2002 at 7:15, Bruce Humphrey wrote: > >>'nicer' interface (sic). I sent a message to Karen, I hope, some time >>ago about how to deal with that, if it was possible to start a new >>group, as I intended to use Phoenyx tools. Also, maybe I could try to >>de-register everyone in forge@phoenyx.net now, and use that one... >> > >Did I answer it? Or did somebody? (I don't actually handle much in >the way of group creation these days. In theory, I'm working on the >software. In practice, auctioning Furry Butt Ornaments (as my sister >puts it) has taken up too much of my time.) > > >-- -------------------------------------------------------------- >Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx >Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/ > Nope, no one answered... I was thinking that the de-register everyone option would be the best... that is less fuss for all of you managers... What I still don't know is why they think Yahoo groups is so much easier to use... it is more or less the same, but less RPG oriented!!!! Bruce -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Bruce Humphrey wrote: > I was thinking that the de-register everyone option would be the best... > that is less fuss for all of you managers... What I still don't know is > why they think Yahoo groups is so much easier to use... it is more or > less the same, but less RPG oriented!!!! It's cleaner to delete an inactive list and create a new one than to hijack an existing list for something other than what it was set up for. It's also not in line with our policies... forge was set up to run a specific game and that's the only thing it should be used for. Getting new list is generally easy... you just have to ask the right people. If you're looking to start a new game, that would be done through the game application form. http://www.phoenyx.net/newgame.html If you're wanting a discussion list, you just need to email help@phoenyx.net with a description of what you want and why. (We've got a few limitations on discussion lists, namely we don't take on new lists that discuss games published by existing companies... we feel that the companies should be providing that support to their customers.) By sending to help@phoenyx.net (or using the application form) your request gets put into the queue so it won't get lost. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> > >>I was thinking that the de-register everyone option would be the best... >>that is less fuss for all of you managers... What I still don't know is >>why they think Yahoo groups is so much easier to use... it is more or >>less the same, but less RPG oriented!!!! >> > >It's cleaner to delete an inactive list and create a new one than to >hijack an existing list for something other than what it was set up for. >It's also not in line with our policies... forge was set up to run a >specific game and that's the only thing it should be used for. > >Getting new list is generally easy... you just have to ask the right >people. If you're looking to start a new game, that would be done through >the game application form. > http://www.phoenyx.net/newgame.html > >If you're wanting a discussion list, you just need to email >help@phoenyx.net with a description of what you want and why. (We've got >a few limitations on discussion lists, namely we don't take on new lists >that discuss games published by existing companies... we feel that the >companies should be providing that support to their customers.) By >sending to help@phoenyx.net (or using the application form) your request >gets put into the queue so it won't get lost. > >-- -------------------------------------------------------------- >Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner >Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/ > Well, but it is in fact the same game, with other people! I would keep game A with current players in Yahoo, and do game B, with similar (but not identical) adventures with other players in Phoenyx... Bruce -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Bruce Humphrey wrote: > Well, but it is in fact the same game, with other people! I would keep > game A with current players in Yahoo, and do game B, with similar (but > not identical) adventures with other players in Phoenyx... Okay, just to figure out where I'm at... your current Phoenyx game is one of those where the GM (you) wanted to move to the Phoenyx, but it turns out not all of your players were willing to leave Yahoo Groups and thus the game is divided across two servers? (This has happened more than once... it's difficult to get players to move. I'd think our spam-free status alone would encourage people to abandon Yahoo. We should push that feature more.) If you've got two games, it's easy enough to set up another list. If they're related enough, it's pretty easy to run each game on a sub-topic of your existing list. One of the Star Trek groups runs like three separate-but-related games on sub-topics in the same list. Just means you have to convince existing players to "move" to the sub-topic... you can do that by making the "main" topic moderated so only you can post to it and making the sub-topics unmoderated. It makes getting new users subscribed just a _tad_ more involved than sending mail to forge-on, though. They have to subscribe, then select the proper sub-topic... that can be done by using the settings page on the web or by sending email to the list robot. Using sub-topics gives you only one list to manage. Using two separate lists makes it a little easier on your players. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> > >>Well, but it is in fact the same game, with other people! I would keep >>game A with current players in Yahoo, and do game B, with similar (but >>not identical) adventures with other players in Phoenyx... >> > >Okay, just to figure out where I'm at... your current Phoenyx game is one >of those where the GM (you) wanted to move to the Phoenyx, but it turns >out not all of your players were willing to leave Yahoo Groups and thus >the game is divided across two servers? (This has happened more than >once... it's difficult to get players to move. I'd think our spam-free >status alone would encourage people to abandon Yahoo. We should push >that feature more.) > >If you've got two games, it's easy enough to set up another list. If >they're related enough, it's pretty easy to run each game on a sub-topic >of your existing list. One of the Star Trek groups runs like three >separate-but-related games on sub-topics in the same list. Just means you >have to convince existing players to "move" to the sub-topic... you can do >that by making the "main" topic moderated so only you can post to it and >making the sub-topics unmoderated. > >It makes getting new users subscribed just a _tad_ more involved than >sending mail to forge-on, though. They have to subscribe, then select the >proper sub-topic... that can be done by using the settings page on the web >or by sending email to the list robot. > >Using sub-topics gives you only one list to manage. Using two separate >lists makes it a little easier on your players. > >-- > Well, we moved 100% to Phoenyx, because there was one player for whom yahoogroups didn't work at all. Then two of the players mentioned they prefered Yahoogroups, and the rest didn't mind which. So we started using both. Of course, the other players who didn't mind decided that two was overkill, so we had two votes. The first one, to keep only one group, had a clear majority. The second one, where to play, was once again like before: 2 votes for yahoogroups, 1 for phoenyx, rest don't mind. So, we moved to yahoogroups... But, I do want to use the PBeM language options, even the rolls... so, I'm starting a new game with new players. It is the same 'world', of course, same rules, and some of the adventures will be the same (originally). I'll go with the sub-topic option. Yes... two sub-options. That is what I'll do. Why didn't I think of that? Note: I hope the rest of phoenyx GMers don't mind me using the thread for this, I thought some of the answers/solutions could be interesting for them too! And they are... Bruce -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> > >>>Well, but it is in fact the same game, with other people! I would keep >>>game A with current players in Yahoo, and do game B, with similar (but >>>not identical) adventures with other players in Phoenyx... >>> >>Okay, just to figure out where I'm at... your current Phoenyx game is one >>of those where the GM (you) wanted to move to the Phoenyx, but it turns >>out not all of your players were willing to leave Yahoo Groups and thus >>the game is divided across two servers? (This has happened more than >>once... it's difficult to get players to move. I'd think our spam-free >>status alone would encourage people to abandon Yahoo. We should push >>that feature more.) >> >>If you've got two games, it's easy enough to set up another list. If >>they're related enough, it's pretty easy to run each game on a sub-topic >>of your existing list. One of the Star Trek groups runs like three >>separate-but-related games on sub-topics in the same list. Just means you >>have to convince existing players to "move" to the sub-topic... you can do >>that by making the "main" topic moderated so only you can post to it and >>making the sub-topics unmoderated. >> >>It makes getting new users subscribed just a _tad_ more involved than >>sending mail to forge-on, though. They have to subscribe, then select the >>proper sub-topic... that can be done by using the settings page on the web >>or by sending email to the list robot. >> >>Using sub-topics gives you only one list to manage. Using two separate >>lists makes it a little easier on your players. >> >>-- >> > >Well, we moved 100% to Phoenyx, because there was one player for whom >yahoogroups didn't work at all. Then two of the players mentioned they >prefered >Yahoogroups, and the rest didn't mind which. So we started using both. >Of course, >the other players who didn't mind decided that two was overkill, so we >had two >votes. The first one, to keep only one group, had a clear majority. The >second one, >where to play, was once again like before: 2 votes for yahoogroups, 1 >for phoenyx, >rest don't mind. So, we moved to yahoogroups... >But, I do want to use the PBeM language options, even the rolls... so, >I'm starting a >new game with new players. It is the same 'world', of course, same >rules, and >some of the adventures will be the same (originally). I'll go with the >sub-topic option. >Yes... two sub-options. That is what I'll do. >Why didn't I think of that? > >Note: I hope the rest of phoenyx GMers don't mind me using the thread >for this, I thought some of the answers/solutions could be interesting >for them too! And they are... > >Bruce > By the way, it seems Yahoo is going to convert Yahoogroups into a pay service... or that is what they are thinking about... So, we'll probably see some people wanting to move in to Phoenyx. Bruce -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Bruce Humphrey wrote: >By the way, it seems Yahoo is going to convert Yahoogroups into a pay >service... or that is what they are thinking about... So, we'll probably >see some people wanting to move in to Phoenyx. Is this any more than a rumour at present? I'm on a lot of (non-rpg) yahoogroups at the moment, and I wonder what's going to happen to them - worst case scenario is that they fragment and splinter like the communities from Compuserve forums when AOL closed them down. BTW, to add fuel to the Phoenyx vs. Yahoogroups fire, two years ago I tried moving my second Kalyr game to the Phoenyx when AOL killed the old RPGAMES forum on Compu$erve, only to have some players balk on me. I still bear the scars :( In heated discussions over the fate of another game, some people cited the lack of a web interface as the reason for preferring yahoogroups over the Phoenyx. Seems that some people actually prefer that slow, ugly and ad-ridden interface of yahoogroups. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Kalyr Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Tim Hall wrote: >Bruce Humphrey wrote: > >>By the way, it seems Yahoo is going to convert Yahoogroups into a pay >>service... or that is what they are thinking about... So, we'll probably >>see some people wanting to move in to Phoenyx. >> > >Is this any more than a rumour at present? > From what I know, it's just rumor, but a rumor with a few teeth. There was a survey on yahoogroups homepage a few weeks ago asking questions about which services you were using and how and although I don't think it was specificaly asked it boiled down to, "How much would you be willing to pay for this or that service?" That survey was up for a couple of days and then disappeared. It wouldn't surprise me if some does come of it in the future, though, because I don't think they can make a profit based on the ads. >I'm on a lot of (non-rpg) >yahoogroups at the moment, and I wonder what's going to happen to them >- worst case scenario is that they fragment and splinter like the >communities from Compuserve forums when AOL closed them down. > Yes, I remember those forums. I wasn't deeply involved with them, having moved on from CServe, but I do remember the forums.>BTW, to add fuel to the Phoenyx vs. Yahoogroups fire, two years ago I >tried moving my second Kalyr game to the Phoenyx when AOL killed the >old RPGAMES forum on Compu$erve, only to have some players balk on me. >I still bear the scars :( > >In heated discussions over the fate of another game, some people cited >the lack of a web interface as the reason for preferring yahoogroups >over the Phoenyx. Seems that some people actually prefer that slow, >ugly and ad-ridden interface of yahoogroups. > Nah! That's impossible! They surely don't prefer slogging through those ads! I will say this, though, Phoenyx really should add the ability to reply to posts read in the archives. There are times during the day/week when I (and I'm sure players) don't have access to email, but do have access to the web. It would be nice in those situations to be able to bring up a message in the archive and make a reply to it directly from the web. No, I wouldn't use it often, but I can really see the utility of having that option. Yahoogroups, as bad as it is, has that option. Phoenyx, as nice as it is, doesn't. Technical: Just what would doing something like that take? A "Reply" button that calls up a form, and a perl script that writes the selected message to the form with "<" prepended to every line, and when a "Save" button is pressed another perl script that writes the form's contents to a file in the proper directory? Eris -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Eris Reddoch wrote: > I will say this, though, Phoenyx really should add the ability to reply > to posts read in the archives. There are times during the day/week when > I (and I'm sure players) don't have access to email, but do have access > to the web. It would be nice in those situations to be able to bring up > a message in the archive and make a reply to it directly from the web. > No, I wouldn't use it often, but I can really see the utility of having > that option. Yahoogroups, as bad as it is, has that option. Phoenyx, as > nice as it is, doesn't. I'd love that too. > Technical: Just what would doing something like that take? A "Reply" > button that calls up a form, and a perl script that writes the selected > message to the form with "<" prepended to every line, and when a "Save" > button is pressed another perl script that writes the form's contents to > a file in the proper directory? I have no idea, and I'd bet if it were simple or easy, we'd already have it. chuk -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Alien Light Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Eris Reddoch wrote: > It would be nice in those situations to be able to bring up a message > in the archive and make a reply to it directly from the web. To avoid becoming a semi-anonymous mail relay, that would require a login... we're not quite ready for that because it's kind of major. > No, I wouldn't use it often, but I can really see the utility of having > that option. Yahoogroups, as bad as it is, has that option. Phoenyx, as > nice as it is, doesn't. Yahoogroups makes you log in. We don't have ads. :) > Technical: Just what would doing something like that take? A "Reply" > button that calls up a form, and a perl script that writes the selected > message to the form with "<" prepended to every line, and when a "Save" > button is pressed another perl script that writes the form's contents to > a file in the proper directory? It's simple enough... just not secure enough at this point. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Fudge, Worldmaking, Fantasy Co-Editor, Phoenyx Co-Owner Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On 11 Apr 2002 at 18:33, Carl D Cravens wrote: > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Eris Reddoch wrote: > > > It would be nice in those situations to be able to bring up a message > > in the archive and make a reply to it directly from the web. > > To avoid becoming a semi-anonymous mail relay, that would require a > login... we're not quite ready for that because it's kind of major. Yep. It's basically the login part that's lacking. Well, that and a good, clean, *fast* way to display stuff. Mhonarc is okay, but I want something cooler. I started working on the login part in the Wiki. I need to update that. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
