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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Tue

Feb 4
2003

20:17Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

Short notice, I know, but we're going to be resuming the weekly Phoenyx 
Chats starting tonight (Tuesday) at 8:30 pm CST.

Tonight's topic will just be poking around in the new MOO core and 
discussing how we should "decorate" the place, what all the new toys do, 
and so on.

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MikeF
Mike Feldhusen

Tue

Feb 4
2003

20:48Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

At 03:17 PM 2/4/2003, Karen Cravens wrote:
>Short notice, I know, but we're going to be resuming the weekly Phoenyx
>Chats starting tonight (Tuesday) at 8:30 pm CST.
>
>Tonight's topic will just be poking around in the new MOO core and
>discussing how we should "decorate" the place, what all the new toys do,
>and so on.

OK, I should be there.


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TimHall
Tim Hall

Tue

Feb 4
2003

20:57Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

Karen Cravens wrote:

>Short notice, I know, but we're going to be resuming the weekly Phoenyx 
>Chats starting tonight (Tuesday) at 8:30 pm CST.

2.30am GMT :(

Any plans for Europe friendly weekend chats?
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

Feb 5
2003

02:50Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On 4 Feb 2003 at 14:57, Tim Hall wrote:

> 2.30am GMT :(
> Any plans for Europe friendly weekend chats?

Right now, the chat is strategically placed at just after Nathan goes to bed, 
since the computers are still downstairs.

Carl has likened our house rearrangement project to a sliding puzzle... we 
have to move this before we can move that, and so on.  This is a flawed 
analogy... sliding puzzles have an empty square.

Anyway, once we create an empty square, the computers are going upstairs. 
 This is a nontrivial project, since they're still on coax... and still on some 
aging network cards that occasionally flake out, as evidenced by our early-
morning outage yesterday (or was it Friday?)  We theoretically have enough 
materiel to assemble a more modern network, but we have to get the time.

We're resisting the temptation to just run some CAT-5 down the stairwell, 
because then it would become permanent.  We moved in here almost eight 
years ago, and still have the main phone line coming up through the furnace' 
cold-air return...

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MikeF
Mike Feldhusen

Wed

Feb 5
2003

04:31Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

At 09:50 PM 2/4/2003, Karen Cravens wrote:
>We're resisting the temptation to just run some CAT-5 down the stairwell,
>because then it would become permanent.  We moved in here almost eight
>years ago, and still have the main phone line coming up through the furnace'
>cold-air return...

While the CAT-5 on the stairwell is not a good idea, the phone line in the 
cold-air return is a *very* good option and really *is* a permanent 
solution.  So there.




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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

Feb 5
2003

05:01Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On 4 Feb 2003 at 22:31, Michael J. Feldhusen wrote:

> While the CAT-5 on the stairwell is not a good idea, the phone line in the 
> cold-air return is a *very* good option and really *is* a permanent 
> solution.  So there.

Not when the cold-air return vent is in the hallway and the phone is in the 
bedroom, though.  The other phone line comes up with the plumbing under 
the kitchen sink, which isn't bad, except that that's the quarter of the house 
that's over the crawl space.  That's where we're going to run the main cabling, 
I think.

This is the crawl space that has the mysterious drain line from the kitchen 
sink, that broke somewhere underground (sufficiently, mysteriously deep that 
the plumber finally gave up and rerouted it) and leaked kitchen-sink-sewage 
into the ground until we finally located the source of the plague of fruit-flies 
and the weird smell (which, due to the proximity to the A/C intake, kept 
appearing in different places in the house) and called in a plumber.

I suspect that if we excavated the crawl space and added it to the compost 
pile, we'd have a really good garden.  In the meantime, I think it's important to 
get the work done before the weather warms up...


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RobertKnop
Robert A. Knop Jr.

Wed

Feb 5
2003

12:43Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 11:01:42PM -0600, Karen Cravens wrote:
> I suspect that if we excavated the crawl space and added it to the
> compost pile, we'd have a really good garden.  In the meantime, I
> think it's important to get the work done before the weather warms
> up...

That sounds bizarre to me, mostly because the biggest "under-house"
wiring project I did was in my house back in El Cerrito.  (That wasn't
such a big deal; I just ran cat5 from my office to two rooms for the
home network, and phone lines similarly.)  There, though, the best time
to do it is the summer, since in the SF Bay Area, winter = rainy season.

In my current house in Nashville, I ran the one line that's there in the
hot summer as well, but that was mostly because that was when we moved
in.  I don't have quite the network you guys do, though; this one line
was just to get my wife's computer on the cable modem, and went from my
office to hers.  (We have a two bedrom, one "den" house, and no kids, so
we each get our own study.  This is the benefit of moving to a housing
market where you can buy a house more than twice the size of the old one
at a lower price than you sold the old one for.)  For hooking my laptop
in, I splurged on a couple of wireless cards, and saved myself
networking three other rooms.

-Rob

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MagnusBjerner
Magnus Bjerner

Wed

Feb 5
2003

06:00Z

MGR: SV: Phoenyx Chat

What's that in GMT, please? Very early morning, right?

/Magnus B, located far east of the Atlantic

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Karen Cravens 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: MGR: Phoenyx Chat


> Short notice, I know, but we're going to be resuming the weekly Phoenyx 
> Chats starting tonight (Tuesday) at 8:30 pm CST.
> 
> Tonight's topic will just be poking around in the new MOO core and 
> discussing how we should "decorate" the place, what all the new toys do, 
> and so on.
> 
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> Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx
> Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
> 

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RobertKnop
Robert A. Knop Jr.

Wed

Feb 5
2003

12:40Z

MGR: SV: Phoenyx Chat

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 12:00:45AM -0600, Magnus Bjerner wrote:
> What's that in GMT, please? Very early morning, right?

CST is GMT-6, so, yes, it was very early morning (2:30) GMT.

-Rob

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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Wed

Feb 5
2003

12:41Z

MGR: SV: Phoenyx Chat

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Magnus Bjerner wrote:

> What's that in GMT, please? Very early morning, right?

We're six hours behind GMT right now...  so 8:30 PM CST is 2:30 AM GMT.

We'll work on weekend chats... it just might take us some time.

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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Wed

Feb 5
2003

12:35Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Michael J. Feldhusen wrote:

> While the CAT-5 on the stairwell is not a good idea, the phone line in the
> cold-air return is a *very* good option and really *is* a permanent
> solution.  So there.

Out the cold-air return, around the door frame, and across the wall behind
the dresser.

Oh, and it gets into the cold-air return from an open split connection
laying in the middle of the furnace room.

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RobertKnop
Robert A. Knop Jr.

Tue

Feb 4
2003

21:41Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:17:48PM -0600, Karen Cravens wrote:
> Short notice, I know, but we're going to be resuming the weekly Phoenyx 
> Chats starting tonight (Tuesday) at 8:30 pm CST.

I was about to complain that that was smack in the middle of Buffy, but
then I realized what CST really means....

I haven't been paying much attention to the shared world, I fear, as
I've been pretty busy, but I do hope eventually to get involved one way
or another.  Are the message boards still entirely web-based, or is
there an E-mail or NNTP interface to them?  (I know at one point you
wanted to do that, but I also know that that can be fairly ambitious.)

-Rob

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Wed

Feb 5
2003

02:58Z

MGR: Phoenyx Chat

On 4 Feb 2003 at 15:41, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote:

> I was about to complain that that was smack in the middle of Buffy, but
> then I realized what CST really means....

"Flyover country time."
 
> I haven't been paying much attention to the shared world, I fear, as
> I've been pretty busy, but I do hope eventually to get involved one way
> or another.  Are the message boards still entirely web-based, or is
> there an E-mail or NNTP interface to them?  (I know at one point you
> wanted to do that, but I also know that that can be fairly ambitious.)

There's a one-way email interface.  You can subscribe to 
fantasy@phoenyx.net (fantasy-on, the usual) but it's read-only... the 
messages contain a link back to the thread's page in the web-based forum.

I've fiddled around enough with YaBB to know that I don't want to just write an 
interface to it; there's too much feeping creaturitis to hack out.  But I needed 
to put *some* web forum up and force myself to use it to know how to do one 
*right*.

I've been doing a lot more work in the Wiki than in the forums, though.  
Mostly note-taking, and I need to go back in and flesh it all out.  I'm starting 
to get a Big Picture in my head, which is hopefully shared...

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