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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Jul 24
2003

01:52Z

MGR: Registration

In our quest to create the One World Government (or at least the One
Phoenyx Registration), I'm getting ready for alpha testing of our new
registration method.

First, though, I'd like some feedback on it.

The plan, as it stands now, is to completely refuse any incoming mail that
isn't whitelisted.  That'll kill any spam that isn't forging a known
user's address, right there.  (Actually, it won't *completely* refuse
it...  if looks *really* legitimate, it'll get replied to with a "You're
not using a registered address" response.)

The way to get on the whitelist is to register... the one email address
that'll accept unknown addresses.  ("Registration" just means getting a
user's "real" name (at least, something to call them besides the email
address), a WikiName, and a primary email address.  In most cases, that
can all be gotten from the email headers.)

Sending mail to the registration address (or registering via web) gets you
a password in the mail.  The account isn't active until the password gets
mailed *back* to the Phoenyx, but that can be in your first mail to a
magic (groupname-on@) address, so it still will only take two mails to
join your first Phoenyx group.

Once you're registered, all the usual magic addresses work (and after the
first one, probably won't even require the password), and aside from
telling it about multiple or changed email addresses, you never need to
talk to the registration address again.  Registration also creates a Wiki
account and a MOO account.

This will effectively make all Phoenyx lists double-opt-in, which is
always a good idea these days.

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Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/

RobertKnop
Robert A. Knop Jr.

Thu

Jul 24
2003

02:36Z

MGR: Registration

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 08:52:19PM -0500, Karen J. Cravens wrote:
> This will effectively make all Phoenyx lists double-opt-in, which is
> always a good idea these days.

It's liable to scare off all the players in a given game, though.  As it
is, I subscribed some of the players in my game to the mailing list--
will GMs be able to do this any more?  If the mailing lists won't work
without this double-opt-in, I predict some players will throw up their
hands and say it's too much of a pain.

And, yeah, I know, they're whiners-- it's simple, it's easy, just do
it.  But I've found that much of the Great Unwashed Public, even that
segment that uses E-mail, finds the most trivial computer things
extremely opqaue.

-Rob

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Jul 24
2003

04:11Z

MGR: Registration

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Robert A. Knop Jr. wrote:

RAKJ>And, yeah, I know, they're whiners-- it's simple, it's easy, just do
RAKJ>it.  But I've found that much of the Great Unwashed Public, even that
RAKJ>segment that uses E-mail, finds the most trivial computer things
RAKJ>extremely opqaue.

That segment should go sign up on the web instead.  Same effect.  Only
with pictures.

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Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/

MJHarnish
MJ Harnish

Thu

Aug 28
2003

17:53Z

MGR: Registration

Karen,
   Have you still been tinkering with the new registration process?  I 
ask b/c I've gotten repeated messages (though not consistently; it 
seems like 1 out of every 4 or 5 messages) in the past two weeks 
telling me I'm not authorized to post; resending the message later 
seems to then allow me to post.  Several players (none of which are 
newbies) have also reported the same sorts of problems.  No one's 
email parameters have changed so it's defiitely something going on 
with the list server.

MJ Harnish
Realms DM
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Game(s): MJ Harnish
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Chuk
Chuk Goodin

Thu

Aug 28
2003

17:54Z

MGR: Registration

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 08:52:19PM -0500, Karen J. Cravens wrote:
> In our quest to create the One World Government (or at least the One
> Phoenyx Registration), I'm getting ready for alpha testing of our new
> registration method.
> This will effectively make all Phoenyx lists double-opt-in, which is
> always a good idea these days.

Has this been implemented?  One of my players is having trouble posting 
and I was wondering if this might be why.

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Game(s): Alien Light
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