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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Aug 28
2003

17:55Z

MGR: Bah.

Sobig's had a hold of the various fudge-list addresses for quite awhile,
but it looks like it's spread to several other lists... and with a new
wrinkle, that it's forged mails from other autoresponders (such that some
cookies got returned and some responders got subscribed).

I've altered the behavior of the magic addresses slightly, so that you
don't get to just reply, but have to forward the mail.  This will change
back when we get whitelisting implemented and can deflect bogus mail away
from the magic addresses so that they can be convenient again.

Bah.  When I'd planned to spend the morning doing housekeeping, this
wasn't what I had in mind.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Mar 15
2007

20:16Z

MGR: Bah.

A trilobite cookie to whoever can tell me what's wrong with the following 
quote (hint: it's not technological):

"Post-GorillaCon, we'll get the database moved from flamingo to roc, I'll
make any necessary MySQL->PostgreSQL adjustments, and put everything in
darcs or TWiki or whatever the heck we're going to use, and set up some
test accounts on the SQL server."

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TimHall
Tim Hall

Thu

Mar 15
2007

20:57Z

MGR: Bah.

Karen J. Cravens wrote:
> A trilobite cookie to whoever can tell me what's wrong with the following 
> quote (hint: it's not technological):

Are those made from tribbles?

> "Post-GorillaCon, we'll get the database moved from flamingo to roc, I'll
> make any necessary MySQL->PostgreSQL adjustments, and put everything in
> darcs or TWiki or whatever the heck we're going to use, and set up some
> test accounts on the SQL server."

I thought GorillaCon was one of the villains in Spirit of the Century... 
  Putting "GorillaCon" into Google is rather amusing, actually :)

As for what's wrong with the quote, I'm not sure.
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Mar 15
2007

21:17Z

MGR: Bah.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>Are those made from tribbles?

www.georgehart.com/trilobites/trilobite.html

TH>I thought GorillaCon was one of the villains in Spirit of the Century... 
TH>  Putting "GorillaCon" into Google is rather amusing, actually :)

It is?  I just come up with a hit for Gorilla Consulting and the rest are 
for the convention (which started out at Pittsburg-no-h State University, 
whose mascot is a gorilla).

On which subject: we'll be there this weekend, in the unlikely event 
anyone's in the neighborhood.  (I'm pretty sure we don't have any managers 
from the KC/Joplin/Tulsa/Wichita region.  But I've been wrong before, as 
that quote clearly indicates...)
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TimHall
Tim Hall

Thu

Mar 15
2007

21:38Z

MGR: Bah.

Karen Cravens wrote:

> TH>  Putting "GorillaCon" into Google is rather amusing, actually :)
> 
> It is?  I just come up with a hit for Gorilla Consulting and the rest are 
> for the convention (which started out at Pittsburg-no-h State University, 
> whose mascot is a gorilla).

I ran the search from google.co.uk (rather than google.com), and the 
third search result was a SQL error page.  Presumably the googlebot 
crashed something :(

> On which subject: we'll be there this weekend, in the unlikely event 
> anyone's in the neighborhood.  (I'm pretty sure we don't have any managers 
> from the KC/Joplin/Tulsa/Wichita region.  But I've been wrong before, as 
> that quote clearly indicates...)

As my location in a number of forums states, I'm "Nowhere near Kansas" :(
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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Mar 15
2007

21:59Z

MGR: Bah.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Tim Hall wrote:

TH>I ran the search from google.co.uk (rather than google.com), and the 
TH>third search result was a SQL error page.  Presumably the googlebot 
TH>crashed something :(

Oh, that... yep, I did see that, but I've learned to ignore that, 
especially when I'm doing searches that will turn up obscure amateur 
sites.

It's a defense mechanism... I used to read them to see if I could see what 
was wrong, but these days I'm programming in MS-SQL (at work) and MySQL 
(the old Phoenyx server) and PostgreSQL (the new Phoenyx server) and if I 
should happen to read YA flavor of SQL my head would explode. (Partly 
because I'm also juggling Perl (Phoenyx), Delphi (work), and Javascript 
(both) with a side of HTML and CSS.)
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Thu

Mar 15
2007

22:39Z

MGR: Bah.

Karen J. Cravens wrote:
> "Post-GorillaCon, we'll get the database moved from flamingo to roc, I'll

The database is on firebird.

Flamingo Roc sounds like a HBO children's program.  Or a Wiggles song.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Mar 15
2007

23:19Z

MGR: Bah.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Carl Cravens wrote:

CC>The database is on firebird.

It is now, yes.
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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Fri

Mar 16
2007

02:00Z

MGR: Bah.

Karen Cravens wrote:
> It is now, yes.

Ah.  I wondered why it was a quote.  It's from a year ago.  And aside 
from flamingo/firebird, it's pretty much identical.

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KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Fri

Mar 16
2007

03:02Z

MGR: Bah.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Carl D Cravens wrote:

CDC>Ah.  I wondered why it was a quote.  It's from a year ago.  And aside 
CDC>from flamingo/firebird, it's pretty much identical.

Yup.

That tears it... I'm quitting the two-day-a-week Day Job and reallocating 
that time. Tuesdays will be Gamehawk, Thursdays will be getting the house 
on the market (another thing that's the same as it was this time last 
year).  Or vice versa.

(I'd've quit a long time ago, but I work for my sister's company as a 
contractor, and she's guilted me into staying.  Enough's enough, though.)

See, what got this started was that GorillaCon, like I said, is this 
weekend, and I finally got off my duff this week and got pgAdmin installed 
so I could get serious about moving the db to PostgreSQL, which is pretty 
much the last hump to get over with the new server.  And it turned out not 
to be so bad, so I'm about ready to convert all the archives and get the 
show on the road, and I thought to myself,

"I'd rather stay home and work on Gamehawk than go to the convention."

And I had the *weirdest* feeling of deja vu, so I looked in the archives 
for the gamehawk@wirebird list, and yeah.  After the flamingo thing, I 
later said:

"I'm also not going to GorillaCon, because I have a mild bug.  And because
I wasn't interested in any of the listed games or panels, and would have
just sat there with the laptop coding anyway."

I may sit there with the laptop coding (or more accurately, 
installing/testing) *this* year (no bug so far) too.  Carl's laptop, since 
my work laptop is, to be kind, crap.  That's the other incentive to quit: 
the realization that if it wasn't my sister's company (er, she doesn't own 
it, she's just the director of IT and Accounting) I wouldn't put up with 
it. It's an interesting company to work for, if you're in one of the big 
departments that gets catered lunches every week or two and parties all 
the time... but they put their programmers in an itty bitty room (10x15, I 
believe, four cubes and a test station, and they're trying to put a fifth 
person at the test station, who will have to get up every time anyone but 
the guy closest the door wants to leave their desk) with seriously 
dysfunctional (swinging between 40 and 80 degrees F) HVAC, and I was 
telling Carl about the new guy's crazy laptop posture and he was surprised 
to learn we all have laptops and actually use their built-in screens and I 
said "Well, except mine they're all widescreens; mine's older but it's a 
17-inch, or was until its backlight died" and Carl said "*We* have 24-inch 
LCD monitors" (and laptops *plus* desktops) and it occurred to me then 
that hey, this company is selling the code to other retailers and was at 
one time thinking of spinning it off into its own company and even so they 
don't *value* their IT people, and I could do better elsewhere and I'm 
going to have to tell my sister that, because she thinks *she's* somehow 
doing *me* a favor and yeah, I'm done whining.  

For now.
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