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CarlCravens
Carl D Cravens

Wed

Mar 17
2004

04:43Z

MGR: Spamhaus blocklist...

Just FYI...  We've started using the Spamhaus SBL (known spammers) and XBL
(known exploited machines) block lists to reject SMTP connections.  We
rejected 1336 connections in the last 24 hours.  My personal spam count
dropped down to only 9 getting through the filters and into my inbox (vs
30 or more) and only 86 spams total reached my account... when I normally
get around 300.  This has greatly decreased the load on our server caused
by processing spam.  (There have been times in the past that spam to the
Fudge List comes in faster than we can process it (it uses a beta-test
sequential processor), creating a backlog.)

_BUT_... that means if your mail gets rejected by the block-list filter,
there's no way for you to send mail to anyone at the Phoenyx until your
site is removed from Spamhaus's list.

When I get a chance, I'll set up a form on our web page to allow users
with a problem to send us a message and put the address in the rejection
message.  For now, they're just directed to spamhaus.org where they can
request to be removed from the list.

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ErisReddoch
Eris Reddoch

Wed

Mar 17
2004

23:54Z

MGR: A Website Problem (was Spamhaus blocklist...)

Carl D Cravens wrote:

>  Just FYI... We've started using the Spamhaus SBL (known spammers)
>  and XBL (known exploited machines) block lists to reject SMTP
>  connections. We rejected 1336 connections in the last 24 hours. My
>  personal spam count dropped down to only 9 getting through the
>  filters and into my inbox (vs 30 or more) and only 86 spams total
>  reached my account... when I normally get around 300. This has
>  greatly decreased the load on our server caused by processing spam.
>  (There have been times in the past that spam to the Fudge List comes
>  in faster than we can process it (it uses a beta-test sequential
>  processor), creating a backlog.)
>
>  _BUT_... that means if your mail gets rejected by the block-list
>  filter, there's no way for you to send mail to anyone at the Phoenyx
>  until your site is removed from Spamhaus's list.
>
>  When I get a chance, I'll set up a form on our web page to allow
>  users with a problem to send us a message and put the address in the
>  rejection message. For now, they're just directed to spamhaus.org
>  where they can request to be removed from the list.

Carl, I don't think this problem is related to you starting to use 
Spamhaus, because I'm still getting mail to and from the list I run on 
phoenyx.net, but I can't get to the phoenyx *website* at all. I'm not 
sure when this started, but I know it's been this way since Monday.  I 
first noticed it when I couldn't get to wirebird.com/actlog.html to look 
at Karen's pretty charts.   I wrote that off at first to her taking 
it down or changing something, but when I tried my game site on phoenyx 
I couldn't get there nor could I get to the phoenyx homepage!

IE tells me it can't find www.phoenyx.net, NS and Mozilla just time out 
trying to get there.  Do you have any idea what might be going on?

Eris
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Game(s): erisred@bellsouth.net
Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/

KarenCravens
Karen Cravens

Thu

Mar 18
2004

02:50Z

MGR: A Website Problem (was Spamhaus blocklist...)

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Eris Reddoch wrote:

ER>Carl, I don't think this problem is related to you starting to use
ER>Spamhaus, because I'm still getting mail to and from the list I run on
ER>phoenyx.net, but I can't get to the phoenyx *website* at all. I'm not
ER>sure when this started, but I know it's been this way since Monday.  I
ER>first noticed it when I couldn't get to wirebird.com/actlog.html to look
ER>at Karen's pretty charts.   I wrote that off at first to her taking
ER>it down or changing something, but when I tried my game site on phoenyx
ER>I couldn't get there nor could I get to the phoenyx homepage!
ER>
ER>IE tells me it can't find www.phoenyx.net, NS and Mozilla just time out
ER>trying to get there.  Do you have any idea what might be going on?

What happens when you go to our IP address directly?

http://207.178.110.185/

Should get the wirebird.com main page (boy, have I gotta go change
*that*).

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ErisReddoch
Eris Reddoch

Thu

Mar 18
2004

08:12Z

MGR: A Website Problem (was Spamhaus blocklist...)

Karen J. Cravens wrote:

>  What happens when you go to our IP address directly?
>
>  http://207.178.110.185/
>
>  Should get the wirebird.com main page (boy, have I gotta go change
>  *that*).

Now....I get the wirebird.com site.  

I did some traceroutes on sites that worked and sites that didn't. The 
differrence was the first hop. Both were sending out the request to the 
DNS for the IP and getting the return, but the sites that weren't 
working were hopping to the *internal* address in my LAN  and the sites 
that were working were hopping to the external address like they 
should.  This lead me to suspect it was either my router or the dsl 
modem, and I did what I probably should have done to start with and 
powered them down.  After a restart, everything is working correctly 
again.  

Why certain sites were failing and others weren't,  I haven't a clue.

Thanks for replying though.

Eris
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