Status reporter for kalyr wrote: >0 spam message discarded from 207.159.120.61 (Re: Kalyr: 94c - To The City) The IP address matches nn7.excitenetwork.com [207.159.120.61] I have a very nasty suspicion this is a false positive, caused by that player with earlier upper/lower case problems. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Kalyr Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Tim Hall wrote: TH>I have a very nasty suspicion this is a false positive, caused by that TH>player with earlier upper/lower case problems. I'm looking at that in the spamtrap, and the brightly-colored HTML-"enhanced" Excite-added sig-ad is twice the size of the message. Which is to say, looks like the spamfilter works just fine. I don't see why the Phoenyx should be expected to distribute ads just because they're piggybacking on a member post. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Karen J. Cravens wrote: >I'm looking at that in the spamtrap, and the brightly-colored >HTML-"enhanced" Excite-added sig-ad is twice the size of the message. Is Excite sending html only email? If it refuses to send text-only email that fits my definition of broken. It may be a configuration setting the user can change. Any other GMs out there got players using excite? Are there any problems with them? >Which is to say, looks like the spamfilter works just fine. I don't see >why the Phoenyx should be expected to distribute ads just because they're >piggybacking on a member post. I've asked him to resend it, cc-ed to me, so I can repost the thing to the list shorn of the gunk excite adds. I don't know of a tactful way of telling my player "Your free email provider blows chunks, please switch to something else that doesn't suck quite as much". I really *don't* want to lose the player altogether. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Kalyr Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:09:28PM -0500, Tim Hall wrote: > I don't know of a tactful way of telling my player "Your free email > provider blows chunks, please switch to something else that doesn't > suck quite as much". Personally, I would say "Your free email provider sucks rocks, please switch to something else that doesn't blow quite as much." I have to do this all the time at work. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Alien Light Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Chuk Goodin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:09:28PM -0500, Tim Hall wrote: > > > I don't know of a tactful way of telling my player "Your free email > > provider blows chunks, please switch to something else that > > doesn't suck quite as much". > > Personally, I would say "Your free email provider sucks rocks, please > switch to something else that doesn't blow quite as much." Yeah, I would, too, and I'd offer a suggestion or two for a replacement. Yahoomail and hotmail seem to be acceptable, barely. Neither of them have *too* much space eaten by junk ads, as long as they are limited to plain text only. Karen, is it outside the realm of the possible for phoenyx to set up a webmail interface, like SquirrelMail, Horde, or some sort of online "form mail" interface of your own design? If you did, players could post to the lists even when they didn't have access to popmail, and wouldn't have to use those "ad carriers." Any interface like that would have to be password protected and limited to only list members posting, of course, but it really might get some of the players off of things like excite. Personally, I'm not a big fan of forums and webmail type interfaces, but I know some folks do like them, and those sort of interfaces can almost always be accessed *anywhere* a person has access to the web. Eris -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): erisred@bellsouth.net Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Eris Reddoch wrote: ER>Yeah, I would, too, and I'd offer a suggestion or two for a replacement. ER>Yahoomail and hotmail seem to be acceptable, barely. Neither of them ER>have *too* much space eaten by junk ads, as long as they are limited to ER>plain text only. Some of them are stripped by the Phoenyx, but there again it doesn't happen until after spamchecking. ER>Karen, is it outside the realm of the possible for phoenyx to set up a ER>webmail interface, like SquirrelMail, Horde, or some sort of online ER>"form mail" interface of your own design? If you did, players could post ER>to the lists even when they didn't have access to popmail, and wouldn't ER>have to use those "ad carriers." Any interface like that would have to ER>be password protected and limited to only list members posting, of ER>course, but it really might get some of the players off of things like ER>excite. Personally, I'm not a big fan of forums and webmail type ER>interfaces, but I know some folks do like them, and those sort of ER>interfaces can almost always be accessed *anywhere* a person has access ER>to the web. Say, I'll be you haven't been reading my blog. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
Karen J. Cravens wrote: > ER>Karen, is it outside the realm of the possible for phoenyx to set up a > ER>webmail interface, like SquirrelMail, Horde, or some sort of online > ER>"form mail" interface of your own design? If you did, players could post > ER>to the lists even when they didn't have access to popmail, and wouldn't > ER>have to use those "ad carriers." Any interface like that would have to > ER>be password protected and limited to only list members posting, of > ER>course, but it really might get some of the players off of things like > ER>excite. Personally, I'm not a big fan of forums and webmail type > ER>interfaces, but I know some folks do like them, and those sort of > ER>interfaces can almost always be accessed *anywhere* a person has access > ER>to the web. > > Say, I'll be you haven't been reading my blog. No, I haven't. Should I have been? Does this mean you've given the complete kabosh to the idea of "webmail", or have news of its imminent appearance on phoenyx?Eris -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): erisred@bellsouth.net Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Eris Reddoch wrote: ER>No, I haven't. Should I have been? Does this mean you've ER>given the complete kabosh to the idea of "webmail", or have ER>news of its imminent appearance on phoenyx?Anybody who's interested in the future software probably should at least check it once in awhile. Easiest way to read past stuff right now is (probably) the NNTP server: news://phoenyx.net/ The mostly-reliable way to read it on a current basis is the Bryar blog software, which includes an RSS feed if you use an aggregator (I'm currently using Bloglines, and there's a link on the bottom of the page): http://www.phoenyx.net/gamehawk/bryar.cgi It's also more or less a Wiki (less, at the moment), so you can also generally get to the pages with a bit of manual URL-tweaking: http://www.phoenyx.net/tools/wiki/gamehawk/1-all http://www.phoenyx.net/tools/wiki/gamehawk/2-all und so weiter. And lastly, you can subscribe it as a mailing list if you register on the web (email registration is still in alpha): http://www.phoenyx.net/tools/register and then send mail to join+gamehawk@ here. The plethora of ways to read the content is because the "blog" is actually a Gamehawk (successor to Firehawk) group, with thread-starting posts ("blog entries") restricted to me and replies ("comments") open to anybody. And that probably answers your question without you having to actually go read it... -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 07:38:19PM -0500, Karen J. Cravens wrote: > Easiest way to read past stuff right now is (probably) the NNTP server: > news://phoenyx.net/ That doesn't seem to work for me. I get some truly weird error messages with trn. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): Alien Light Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Chuk Goodin wrote: CG>That doesn't seem to work for me. I get some truly weird error messages CG>with trn. Looking at the session, it looks like trn relies on extended NNTP commands and either completely ignores Gamehawk's list of what is supported, or else Gamehawk isn't being clear enough about what it does. But it gives me something to go on, anyway. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Karen J. Cravens wrote: KJC>Looking at the session, it looks like trn relies on extended NNTP commands KJC>and either completely ignores Gamehawk's list of what is supported, or KJC>else Gamehawk isn't being clear enough about what it does. But it gives KJC>me something to go on, anyway. Thanks. Okay, I dissected it in a post to gamehawk+nntp, but the main problem seems to be that the early posts aren't really RFC-compliant yet (they're Bryar-only posts). They confuse the heck out of XNews, too. Read those via the web interface, and look at the later messages (after "I'm a mailing list!") in trn. There's still some stuff that trn is being obstinate about (it doesn't seem capable of connecting to RFC-977 servers), but there shouldn't be anything fatal after those early posts. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Chuk Goodin wrote: CG>That doesn't seem to work for me. I get some truly weird error messages CG>with trn. Okay, now I've taught Gamehawk some more extended-NNTP. Hopefully most of the truly weirdness was the early wacky messages, though. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Tim Hall wrote: TH>Is Excite sending html only email? If it refuses to send text-only TH>email that fits my definition of broken. It may be a configuration TH>setting the user can change. Any other GMs out there got players TH>using excite? Are there any problems with them? No, it's sending both... the ad in the text version is only slightly longer than the message. But the spamcheck happens first thing. That'll change once we switch over to the whitelisted version. I'm still ambivalent on whether we'll spamcheck whitelisted posts... they could still be forgeries, but like as not those will be virus-attachment posts. TH>I don't know of a tactful way of telling my player "Your free email TH>provider blows chunks, please switch to something else that doesn't TH>suck quite as much". Is there some problem with him sending directly? Surely he could still put his excite address on it or, failing that, you can set your list to rewrite addresses/ TH>I really *don't* want to lose the player altogether. No, I wouldn't think so. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Game(s): The Whole Phoenyx Listowner tools are found at http://www.phoenyx.net/listowners/
